This week we have Scott Chacon, a co founder of GitHub, about his new product GitButler. We talk about the history of GitHub and how GitButler is changing what user centric version control is. We also talk about the future of version control and how AI is changing the way we work.
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This week we have Scott Chacon, a co founder of GitHub, about his new product GitButler. We talk about the history of GitHub and how GitButler is changing what user centric version control is. We also talk about the future of version control and how AI is changing the way we work.
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Scott Chacon, co-founder of GitHub, shared insights on how GitHub emerged in a time when developers transitioned from centralized version control systems like Subversion to decentralized systems, particularly Git. Scott reminisces about the early days, emphasizing their intent to create a more user-friendly nesting ground for developers amidst diverse options such as Mercurial and Bizarre, ultimately pouring their passion into making GitHub the preferred choice by allowing features like branching and merging, which simplified collaborative software development. Scott's past experiences led him to co-founding GitHub, showing a trajectory sprinkled with learning and impactful decisions that propelled it to become a significant player in the industry.
Scott discussed his current venture, GitButler, which aims to enhance user-centric version control based on the experiences he gathered from GitHub. Unlike traditional systems that necessitate the developer to be fully aware of the branch they are working on, GitButler introduces the innovative concept of virtual branches. It allows developers to manage multiple workflows without losing track of context, thus reducing the usual burden of switching branches or stashing changes. Scott expressed excitement about the various challenges faced while integrating this new way of managing branches, emphasizing how the vision is focused on relieving friction within the developer workflow.
The conversation moved to the impact AI is having on version control systems and software development. Scott highlighted that AI could help improve processes such as writing commit messages, suggesting branch names, and even resolving certain merge conflicts. However, Scott is cautious about fully relying on AI for more complex decision-making tasks, especially those requiring an understanding of context and collaboration between developers. He believes in using AI as an assistant that can offer valuable insights but maintains that the human touch in software development remains irreplaceable.
Speculating on the future, Scott and the hosts talked about the evolution of developer tools and collaboration methods. They underlined the potential shift toward cloud-based solutions while pondering whether the desktop environment would continue reign supreme or decline. The discussion also covered the need for better tools to facilitate teamwork and communicate seamlessly, especially regarding handling conflicts and a more streamlined review process. Scott emphasized that the overall goal should be making the process of development as smooth as possible without losing sight of user needs and collaboration.
Scott shared a personal project—the Merge Conference, scheduled for June in Berlin. The conference aims to bring together developers and professionals from the developer experience sphere, spurring discussions on marketing, open source, community engagement, and more. He invites listeners to join and partake in the exciting discussions that will unfold.
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This podcast about developer tools and the people\",\"tokens\":[51556,2425,11,2928,281,264,9096,51,29298,13,69,76,7367,13,639,7367,466,10754,3873,293,264,561,51776]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.27582644628099173,\"compression_ratio\":1.5847750865051904,\"end\":30.48,\"id\":6,\"no_speech_prob\":0.18212890625,\"seek\":5456,\"start\":28.28,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" will make them.
I'm Andrew and this is my co-host, Justin.\",\"tokens\":[50364,486,652,552,13,286,478,10110,293,341,307,452,598,12,6037,11,11320,13,50494]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.27582644628099173,\"compression_ratio\":1.5847750865051904,\"end\":37.56,\"id\":7,\"no_speech_prob\":0.18212890625,\"seek\":5456,\"start\":30.96,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" Hey everyone.
Today we're really excited to introduce Scott Chicone.
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Scott, thank you so much for joining us.\",\"tokens\":[51124,3240,583,1918,11,597,286,669,1687,2919,466,13,6659,11,1309,291,370,709,337,5549,505,13,51428]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.27582644628099173,\"compression_ratio\":1.5847750865051904,\"end\":52.94,\"id\":10,\"no_speech_prob\":0.18212890625,\"seek\":5456,\"start\":49.2,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" Before we start talking about the things that you've worked on, would you like to tell\",\"tokens\":[51428,4546,321,722,1417,466,264,721,300,291,600,2732,322,11,576,291,411,281,980,51598]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.27582644628099173,\"compression_ratio\":1.5847750865051904,\"end\":54.56,\"id\":11,\"no_speech_prob\":0.18212890625,\"seek\":5456,\"start\":52.94,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" our listeners a little bit more about yourself?\",\"tokens\":[51598,527,23274,257,707,857,544,466,1803,30,51690]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.2671875,\"compression_ratio\":1.4143646408839778,\"end\":72.02,\"id\":12,\"no_speech_prob\":0.2440185546875,\"seek\":7202,\"start\":54.56,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" Oh, that's a pretty good overview of places that I've worked there.
Yeah, no, I live in in Berlin as well.
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He's coming out to the conference that we're\",\"tokens\":[50708,36736,293,321,445,632,632,257,3440,264,661,786,13,634,311,1348,484,281,264,7586,300,321,434,50940]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17757161458333334,\"compression_ratio\":1.5924369747899159,\"end\":189.88,\"id\":43,\"no_speech_prob\":0.147705078125,\"seek\":19508,\"start\":184.18,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" putting on called the merge in Berlin in a couple months and so I'll be talking to him about\",\"tokens\":[50940,3372,322,1219,264,22183,294,13848,294,257,1916,2493,293,370,286,603,312,1417,281,796,466,51240]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17757161458333334,\"compression_ratio\":1.5924369747899159,\"end\":195.08,\"id\":44,\"no_speech_prob\":0.147705078125,\"seek\":19508,\"start\":189.88,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" some of that stuff too which I'm looking forward to.
Yeah, Adam's great.
Cool, so let's maybe dive\",\"tokens\":[51240,512,295,300,1507,886,597,286,478,1237,2128,281,13,865,11,7938,311,869,13,8561,11,370,718,311,1310,9192,51488]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17943548387096775,\"compression_ratio\":1.5245901639344261,\"end\":203.5,\"id\":45,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1580810546875,\"seek\":22332,\"start\":195.08,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" right into it.
So, you know, GitHub has been obviously very tremendously influential and impactful\",\"tokens\":[50364,558,666,309,13,407,11,291,458,11,23331,575,668,2745,588,27985,22215,293,30842,50796]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17943548387096775,\"compression_ratio\":1.5245901639344261,\"end\":208.12,\"id\":46,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1580810546875,\"seek\":22332,\"start\":203.5,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" on the development industry at large.
I mean, it's hard to think about, like,\",\"tokens\":[50796,322,264,3250,3518,412,2416,13,286,914,11,309,311,1152,281,519,466,11,411,11,51028]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17943548387096775,\"compression_ratio\":1.5245901639344261,\"end\":215.6,\"id\":47,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1580810546875,\"seek\":22332,\"start\":208.36,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" pre-git hub days and how gnarly just centralized source control, like having some place to go to\",\"tokens\":[51028,659,12,70,270,11838,1708,293,577,290,20062,356,445,32395,4009,1969,11,411,1419,512,1081,281,352,281,51384]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17943548387096775,\"compression_ratio\":1.5245901639344261,\"end\":223.32,\"id\":48,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1580810546875,\"seek\":22332,\"start\":215.6,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" download code was.
So how did the idea for GitHub start?
And did you ever think it was going to be\",\"tokens\":[51384,5484,3089,390,13,407,577,630,264,1558,337,23331,722,30,400,630,291,1562,519,309,390,516,281,312,51780]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.20944940476190477,\"compression_ratio\":1.797872340425532,\"end\":225.16,\"id\":49,\"no_speech_prob\":0.233154296875,\"seek\":25266,\"start\":223.32,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" as big as it is today?\",\"tokens\":[50364,382,955,382,309,307,965,30,50488]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.20944940476190477,\"compression_ratio\":1.797872340425532,\"end\":231.4,\"id\":50,\"no_speech_prob\":0.233154296875,\"seek\":25266,\"start\":225.84,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" Yeah, I mean, it's funny now, I've been, you know, now that I'm back in working on developer tools,\",\"tokens\":[50488,865,11,286,914,11,309,311,4074,586,11,286,600,668,11,291,458,11,586,300,286,478,646,294,1364,322,10754,3873,11,50772]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.20944940476190477,\"compression_ratio\":1.797872340425532,\"end\":238.5,\"id\":51,\"no_speech_prob\":0.233154296875,\"seek\":25266,\"start\":231.4,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" I've been speaking at some conferences again about version control or sort of software development,\",\"tokens\":[50772,286,600,668,4124,412,512,22032,797,466,3037,1969,420,1333,295,4722,3250,11,51124]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.20944940476190477,\"compression_ratio\":1.797872340425532,\"end\":242.6,\"id\":52,\"no_speech_prob\":0.233154296875,\"seek\":25266,\"start\":238.8,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" and I'm realizing I've been out of, you know, I've been working in this language learning thing\",\"tokens\":[51124,293,286,478,16734,286,600,668,484,295,11,291,458,11,286,600,668,1364,294,341,2856,2539,551,51328]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.20944940476190477,\"compression_ratio\":1.797872340425532,\"end\":248.9,\"id\":53,\"no_speech_prob\":0.233154296875,\"seek\":25266,\"start\":242.6,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" for seven years now before that, since I left GitHub.
And now there's a whole generation of\",\"tokens\":[51328,337,3407,924,586,949,300,11,1670,286,1411,23331,13,400,586,456,311,257,1379,5125,295,51640]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.20944940476190477,\"compression_ratio\":1.797872340425532,\"end\":252.66,\"id\":54,\"no_speech_prob\":0.233154296875,\"seek\":25266,\"start\":248.9,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" software developers who have never used anything other than getting GitHub, like they, you know,\",\"tokens\":[51640,4722,8849,567,362,1128,1143,1340,661,813,1242,23331,11,411,436,11,291,458,11,51828]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17943218954248366,\"compression_ratio\":1.8590604026845639,\"end\":258.56,\"id\":55,\"no_speech_prob\":0.07672119140625,\"seek\":27926,\"start\":252.66,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" they never use subversion.
They never, they learn get in college, right?
And it's such a,\",\"tokens\":[50364,436,1128,764,1422,29153,13,814,1128,11,436,1466,483,294,3859,11,558,30,400,309,311,1270,257,11,50664]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17943218954248366,\"compression_ratio\":1.8590604026845639,\"end\":263.38,\"id\":56,\"no_speech_prob\":0.07672119140625,\"seek\":27926,\"start\":258.62,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" such a strange, like, this just wasn't my mentality.
Like, when I first started, you know,\",\"tokens\":[50664,1270,257,5861,11,411,11,341,445,2067,380,452,21976,13,1743,11,562,286,700,1409,11,291,458,11,50896]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17943218954248366,\"compression_ratio\":1.8590604026845639,\"end\":267.42,\"id\":57,\"no_speech_prob\":0.07672119140625,\"seek\":27926,\"start\":263.46,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" working on GitHub, I was going around trying to teach people, like, trying to convince them,\",\"tokens\":[50896,1364,322,23331,11,286,390,516,926,1382,281,2924,561,11,411,11,1382,281,13447,552,11,51100]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17943218954248366,\"compression_ratio\":1.8590604026845639,\"end\":270.74,\"id\":58,\"no_speech_prob\":0.07672119140625,\"seek\":27926,\"start\":267.52,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" you should use get because it's better than subversion.
And here's why, right?
Or better than\",\"tokens\":[51100,291,820,764,483,570,309,311,1101,813,1422,29153,13,400,510,311,983,11,558,30,1610,1101,813,51268]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17943218954248366,\"compression_ratio\":1.8590604026845639,\"end\":275.82,\"id\":59,\"no_speech_prob\":0.07672119140625,\"seek\":27926,\"start\":270.74,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" perforce.
And here's why.
And look at how cool branching is.
And now, like, it's almost the opposite\",\"tokens\":[51268,680,5156,13,400,510,311,983,13,400,574,412,577,1627,9819,278,307,13,400,586,11,411,11,309,311,1920,264,6182,51528]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17943218954248366,\"compression_ratio\":1.8590604026845639,\"end\":279.26,\"id\":60,\"no_speech_prob\":0.07672119140625,\"seek\":27926,\"start\":275.82,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" of trying to, trying to be like, it doesn't have to be like this, right?
Like, there,\",\"tokens\":[51528,295,1382,281,11,1382,281,312,411,11,309,1177,380,362,281,312,411,341,11,558,30,1743,11,456,11,51700]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.23525,\"compression_ratio\":1.6879699248120301,\"end\":281.18,\"id\":61,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0802001953125,\"seek\":30696,\"start\":279.26,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" or there was a time when there were options\",\"tokens\":[50364,420,456,390,257,565,562,456,645,3956,50472]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.23525,\"compression_ratio\":1.6879699248120301,\"end\":283.58,\"id\":62,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0802001953125,\"seek\":30696,\"start\":281.18,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" and there were pluses and minuses.\",\"tokens\":[50472,293,456,645,1804,279,293,3175,279,13,50588]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.23525,\"compression_ratio\":1.6879699248120301,\"end\":287.04,\"id\":63,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0802001953125,\"seek\":30696,\"start\":284.90000000000003,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" Yeah, I mean, essentially it started because,\",\"tokens\":[50662,865,11,286,914,11,4476,309,1409,570,11,50792]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.23525,\"compression_ratio\":1.6879699248120301,\"end\":290.6,\"id\":64,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0802001953125,\"seek\":30696,\"start\":288.72,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" because Git was coming up,\",\"tokens\":[50792,570,16939,390,1348,493,11,50940]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.23525,\"compression_ratio\":1.6879699248120301,\"end\":291.94,\"id\":65,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0802001953125,\"seek\":30696,\"start\":290.74,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" I mean, there was this whole era,\",\"tokens\":[50940,286,914,11,456,390,341,1379,4249,11,51038]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.23525,\"compression_ratio\":1.6879699248120301,\"end\":294.52,\"id\":66,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0802001953125,\"seek\":30696,\"start\":292.4,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" I'm sure you guys probably remember this\",\"tokens\":[51038,286,478,988,291,1074,1391,1604,341,51134]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.23525,\"compression_ratio\":1.6879699248120301,\"end\":296.44,\"id\":67,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0802001953125,\"seek\":30696,\"start\":294.52,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" where everybody was using subversion\",\"tokens\":[51134,689,2201,390,1228,1422,29153,51230]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.23525,\"compression_ratio\":1.6879699248120301,\"end\":298.06,\"id\":68,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0802001953125,\"seek\":30696,\"start\":296.44,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" in open source for the most part,\",\"tokens\":[51230,294,1269,4009,337,264,881,644,11,51348]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.23525,\"compression_ratio\":1.6879699248120301,\"end\":301.82,\"id\":69,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0802001953125,\"seek\":30696,\"start\":298.68000000000006,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" or CVS, right, if you just didn't want to take the leap\",\"tokens\":[51348,420,22995,50,11,558,11,498,291,445,994,380,528,281,747,264,19438,51508]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.23525,\"compression_ratio\":1.6879699248120301,\"end\":304.02,\"id\":70,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0802001953125,\"seek\":30696,\"start\":301.82,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" because it wasn't really a big enough difference for you.\",\"tokens\":[51508,570,309,2067,380,534,257,955,1547,2649,337,291,13,51662]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.23525,\"compression_ratio\":1.6879699248120301,\"end\":306.96,\"id\":71,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0802001953125,\"seek\":30696,\"start\":304.92,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" Or you're in a corporate environment,\",\"tokens\":[51662,1610,291,434,294,257,10896,2823,11,51756]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.24586776859504134,\"compression_ratio\":1.708955223880597,\"end\":311.5,\"id\":72,\"no_speech_prob\":0.051788330078125,\"seek\":33256,\"start\":306.96,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" you'd be using perfor, so you'd be using clear case or, you know, whatever.\",\"tokens\":[50364,291,1116,312,1228,680,2994,11,370,291,1116,312,1228,1850,1389,420,11,291,458,11,2035,13,50592]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.24586776859504134,\"compression_ratio\":1.708955223880597,\"end\":318.22,\"id\":73,\"no_speech_prob\":0.051788330078125,\"seek\":33256,\"start\":312.88,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" And then this explosion of these cool distributed virtual systems all came out kind of at the\",\"tokens\":[50664,400,550,341,15673,295,613,1627,12631,6374,3652,439,1361,484,733,295,412,264,50924]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.24586776859504134,\"compression_ratio\":1.708955223880597,\"end\":323.78,\"id\":74,\"no_speech_prob\":0.051788330078125,\"seek\":33256,\"start\":318.22,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" same time, right?
There was like bizarre and material and darks and and get and and at the time,\",\"tokens\":[50924,912,565,11,558,30,821,390,411,18265,293,2527,293,2877,82,293,293,483,293,293,412,264,565,11,51204]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.24586776859504134,\"compression_ratio\":1.708955223880597,\"end\":327.22,\"id\":75,\"no_speech_prob\":0.051788330078125,\"seek\":33256,\"start\":323.92,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" like none of us really knew what was going to win.
We are, I think everybody was kind of trying\",\"tokens\":[51204,411,6022,295,505,534,2586,437,390,516,281,1942,13,492,366,11,286,519,2201,390,733,295,1382,51376]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.24586776859504134,\"compression_ratio\":1.708955223880597,\"end\":332.56,\"id\":76,\"no_speech_prob\":0.051788330078125,\"seek\":33256,\"start\":327.22,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" them out if you were kind of on the edge, right?
And you're like, let's see if this is a little\",\"tokens\":[51376,552,484,498,291,645,733,295,322,264,4691,11,558,30,400,291,434,411,11,718,311,536,498,341,307,257,707,51640]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.21661184210526316,\"compression_ratio\":1.5938864628820961,\"end\":339.3,\"id\":77,\"no_speech_prob\":0.137939453125,\"seek\":36254,\"start\":332.56,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" be cooler, or a little bit better for what I'm trying to do.
And the open source in my\",\"tokens\":[50364,312,15566,11,420,257,707,857,1101,337,437,286,478,1382,281,360,13,400,264,1269,4009,294,452,50700]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.21661184210526316,\"compression_ratio\":1.5938864628820961,\"end\":345.96,\"id\":78,\"no_speech_prob\":0.137939453125,\"seek\":36254,\"start\":339.3,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" world, the Ruby world, we all moved to get, but that wasn't true for everybody.
Some communities\",\"tokens\":[50700,1002,11,264,19907,1002,11,321,439,4259,281,483,11,457,300,2067,380,2074,337,2201,13,2188,4456,51036]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.21661184210526316,\"compression_ratio\":1.5938864628820961,\"end\":349.64,\"id\":79,\"no_speech_prob\":0.137939453125,\"seek\":36254,\"start\":345.96,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" went down the Mercurial route or whatever, and there was a lot of competition between these\",\"tokens\":[51036,1437,760,264,18897,374,831,7955,420,2035,11,293,456,390,257,688,295,6211,1296,613,51232]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.21661184210526316,\"compression_ratio\":1.5938864628820961,\"end\":362.54,\"id\":80,\"no_speech_prob\":0.137939453125,\"seek\":36254,\"start\":349.64,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" groups.
And I find that so interesting.
It was so much fun to be in that world.
But there\",\"tokens\":[51232,3935,13,400,286,915,300,370,1880,13,467,390,370,709,1019,281,312,294,300,1002,13,583,456,51552]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17177083333333334,\"compression_ratio\":1.797979797979798,\"end\":364.72,\"id\":81,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0142669677734375,\"seek\":39108,\"start\":362.54,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" Like we knew each other from Ruby meetups in San Francisco\",\"tokens\":[50364,1743,321,2586,1184,661,490,19907,1677,7528,294,5271,12279,50488]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17177083333333334,\"compression_ratio\":1.797979797979798,\"end\":367.74,\"id\":82,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0142669677734375,\"seek\":39108,\"start\":364.72,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" and Tom and Chris started working on GitHub\",\"tokens\":[50488,293,5041,293,6688,1409,1364,322,23331,50634]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17177083333333334,\"compression_ratio\":1.797979797979798,\"end\":370.5,\"id\":83,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0142669677734375,\"seek\":39108,\"start\":367.74,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" and kind of, you know, I knew Git really well.\",\"tokens\":[50634,293,733,295,11,291,458,11,286,2586,16939,534,731,13,50768]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17177083333333334,\"compression_ratio\":1.797979797979798,\"end\":371.74,\"id\":84,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0142669677734375,\"seek\":39108,\"start\":370.62,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" I had written a book on Git\",\"tokens\":[50768,286,632,3720,257,1446,322,16939,50830]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17177083333333334,\"compression_ratio\":1.797979797979798,\"end\":374.12,\"id\":85,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0142669677734375,\"seek\":39108,\"start\":371.74,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" because I had learned it for something else I was doing.\",\"tokens\":[50830,570,286,632,3264,309,337,746,1646,286,390,884,13,50950]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17177083333333334,\"compression_ratio\":1.797979797979798,\"end\":376.6,\"id\":86,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0142669677734375,\"seek\":39108,\"start\":374.36,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" And so, you know, I like to document stuff\",\"tokens\":[50950,400,370,11,291,458,11,286,411,281,4166,1507,51074]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17177083333333334,\"compression_ratio\":1.797979797979798,\"end\":379.44,\"id\":87,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0142669677734375,\"seek\":39108,\"start\":376.6,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" and try to help the next person that comes behind me.\",\"tokens\":[51074,293,853,281,854,264,958,954,300,1487,2261,385,13,51252]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17177083333333334,\"compression_ratio\":1.797979797979798,\"end\":381.86,\"id\":88,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0142669677734375,\"seek\":39108,\"start\":380.08000000000004,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" That's just something fun for me to do.\",\"tokens\":[51252,663,311,445,746,1019,337,385,281,360,13,51336]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17177083333333334,\"compression_ratio\":1.797979797979798,\"end\":384.98,\"id\":89,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0142669677734375,\"seek\":39108,\"start\":382.22,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" And so, you know, we kind of got together\",\"tokens\":[51336,400,370,11,291,458,11,321,733,295,658,1214,51492]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17177083333333334,\"compression_ratio\":1.797979797979798,\"end\":386.98,\"id\":90,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0142669677734375,\"seek\":39108,\"start\":384.98,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" because I actually really knew Git very well.\",\"tokens\":[51492,570,286,767,534,2586,16939,588,731,13,51600]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17177083333333334,\"compression_ratio\":1.797979797979798,\"end\":388.76,\"id\":91,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0142669677734375,\"seek\":39108,\"start\":387.22,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" And they just liked Git a lot\",\"tokens\":[51600,400,436,445,4501,16939,257,688,51682]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17177083333333334,\"compression_ratio\":1.797979797979798,\"end\":391.08,\"id\":92,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0142669677734375,\"seek\":39108,\"start\":388.76,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" and kind of wanted to, you know, make a host\",\"tokens\":[51682,293,733,295,1415,281,11,291,458,11,652,257,3975,51796]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.22084407216494845,\"compression_ratio\":1.6277056277056277,\"end\":397.72,\"id\":93,\"no_speech_prob\":0.061798095703125,\"seek\":41724,\"start\":391.08,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" that was better than some guy in Lithuania or whatever that had like repo.org.cz or whatever\",\"tokens\":[50364,300,390,1101,813,512,2146,294,32577,84,5609,420,2035,300,632,411,49040,13,4646,13,66,89,420,2035,50700]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.22084407216494845,\"compression_ratio\":1.6277056277056277,\"end\":404.88,\"id\":94,\"no_speech_prob\":0.061798095703125,\"seek\":41724,\"start\":397.72,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" the hosting solution was at the time.
So that's kind of how it was scratch your own H type thing\",\"tokens\":[50700,264,16058,3827,390,412,264,565,13,407,300,311,733,295,577,309,390,8459,428,1065,389,2010,551,51052]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.22084407216494845,\"compression_ratio\":1.6277056277056277,\"end\":411.32,\"id\":95,\"no_speech_prob\":0.061798095703125,\"seek\":41724,\"start\":405.40000000000003,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" in the early days.
And I love the idea of sort of working in developer tools and so that's\",\"tokens\":[51088,294,264,2440,1708,13,400,286,959,264,1558,295,1333,295,1364,294,10754,3873,293,370,300,311,51372]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.22084407216494845,\"compression_ratio\":1.6277056277056277,\"end\":417.24,\"id\":96,\"no_speech_prob\":0.061798095703125,\"seek\":41724,\"start\":411.32,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" how it got started.
And to answer your last question, very provably none of us thought it would\",\"tokens\":[51372,577,309,658,1409,13,400,281,1867,428,1036,1168,11,588,1439,1188,6022,295,505,1194,309,576,51672]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.21343085106382978,\"compression_ratio\":1.5689655172413792,\"end\":422.04,\"id\":97,\"no_speech_prob\":0.06744384765625,\"seek\":44056,\"start\":417.24,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" be a big deal.
We even talked to VCs in the early days, and they were telling us, you\",\"tokens\":[50364,312,257,955,2028,13,492,754,2825,281,691,33290,294,264,2440,1708,11,293,436,645,3585,505,11,291,50604]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.21343085106382978,\"compression_ratio\":1.5689655172413792,\"end\":426.74,\"id\":98,\"no_speech_prob\":0.06744384765625,\"seek\":44056,\"start\":422.04,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" know, the total market cap of all of this type of developer tooling would be like a hundred\",\"tokens\":[50604,458,11,264,3217,2142,1410,295,439,295,341,2010,295,10754,46593,576,312,411,257,3262,50840]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.21343085106382978,\"compression_ratio\":1.5689655172413792,\"end\":432.54,\"id\":99,\"no_speech_prob\":0.06744384765625,\"seek\":44056,\"start\":426.74,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" million dollars, right?
And I think we sold it up for seven billion dollars.
It was completely\",\"tokens\":[50840,2459,3808,11,558,30,400,286,519,321,3718,309,493,337,3407,5218,3808,13,467,390,2584,51132]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.21343085106382978,\"compression_ratio\":1.5689655172413792,\"end\":440.56,\"id\":100,\"no_speech_prob\":0.06744384765625,\"seek\":44056,\"start\":432.54,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" ridiculous, right?
They clearly didn't.
None of us knew what this could be.
And we were all\",\"tokens\":[51132,11083,11,558,30,814,4448,994,380,13,14492,295,505,2586,437,341,727,312,13,400,321,645,439,51536]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.23401988636363635,\"compression_ratio\":1.6829268292682926,\"end\":446.26,\"id\":101,\"no_speech_prob\":0.10650634765625,\"seek\":46968,\"start\":440.56,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" So, surprised by it, and most of my time at GitHub, I think, was taken up by us trying\",\"tokens\":[50364,407,11,6100,538,309,11,293,881,295,452,565,412,23331,11,286,519,11,390,2726,493,538,505,1382,50650]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.23401988636363635,\"compression_ratio\":1.6829268292682926,\"end\":451.86,\"id\":102,\"no_speech_prob\":0.10650634765625,\"seek\":46968,\"start\":446.26,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" to handle steering a rocket ship that, you know, kind of took off much faster than any\",\"tokens\":[50650,281,4813,14823,257,13012,5374,300,11,291,458,11,733,295,1890,766,709,4663,813,604,50928]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.23401988636363635,\"compression_ratio\":1.6829268292682926,\"end\":452.48,\"id\":103,\"no_speech_prob\":0.10650634765625,\"seek\":46968,\"start\":451.86,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" of us expected.\",\"tokens\":[50928,295,505,5176,13,50978]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.23401988636363635,\"compression_ratio\":1.6829268292682926,\"end\":456.42,\"id\":104,\"no_speech_prob\":0.10650634765625,\"seek\":46968,\"start\":452.88,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" And it was a hell of a time, but definitely not expected.\",\"tokens\":[50978,400,309,390,257,4921,295,257,565,11,457,2138,406,5176,13,51178]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.23401988636363635,\"compression_ratio\":1.6829268292682926,\"end\":463.38,\"id\":105,\"no_speech_prob\":0.10650634765625,\"seek\":46968,\"start\":456.84,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" So, in the early days, I thought that you wrote the git book after you guys mounted GitHub,\",\"tokens\":[51178,407,11,294,264,2440,1708,11,286,1194,300,291,4114,264,18331,1446,934,291,1074,19138,23331,11,51528]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.23401988636363635,\"compression_ratio\":1.6829268292682926,\"end\":464.6,\"id\":106,\"no_speech_prob\":0.10650634765625,\"seek\":46968,\"start\":463.68,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" but you wrote it before.\",\"tokens\":[51528,457,291,4114,309,949,13,51578]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.23401988636363635,\"compression_ratio\":1.6829268292682926,\"end\":468.58,\"id\":107,\"no_speech_prob\":0.10650634765625,\"seek\":46968,\"start\":464.92,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" So, can you tell us about like why you did that and some of the fun things you learned\",\"tokens\":[51578,407,11,393,291,980,505,466,411,983,291,630,300,293,512,295,264,1019,721,291,3264,51768]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.23401988636363635,\"compression_ratio\":1.6829268292682926,\"end\":469.68,\"id\":108,\"no_speech_prob\":0.10650634765625,\"seek\":46968,\"start\":468.58,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" along the way while writing it?\",\"tokens\":[51768,2051,264,636,1339,3579,309,30,51828]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.19547526041666666,\"compression_ratio\":1.6844444444444444,\"end\":475.08,\"id\":109,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0267333984375,\"seek\":49250,\"start\":469.68,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" Yeah, so actually, it's a little, a little confusing.
I wrote a book.
I actually worked on the\",\"tokens\":[50364,865,11,370,767,11,309,311,257,707,11,257,707,13181,13,286,4114,257,1446,13,286,767,2732,322,264,50632]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.19547526041666666,\"compression_ratio\":1.6844444444444444,\"end\":479.5,\"id\":110,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0267333984375,\"seek\":49250,\"start\":475.08,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" Git community book, which was kind of the documentation that was around the Git community at the time.\",\"tokens\":[50632,16939,1768,1446,11,597,390,733,295,264,14333,300,390,926,264,16939,1768,412,264,565,13,50864]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.19547526041666666,\"compression_ratio\":1.6844444444444444,\"end\":487.36,\"id\":111,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0267333984375,\"seek\":49250,\"start\":479.74,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" I helped augment that.
And then I wrote from scratch a peep code PDF.
If you guys remember peep code\",\"tokens\":[50864,286,4254,29919,300,13,400,550,286,4114,490,8459,257,520,595,3089,17752,13,759,291,1074,1604,520,595,3089,51248]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.19547526041666666,\"compression_ratio\":1.6844444444444444,\"end\":492.5,\"id\":112,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0267333984375,\"seek\":49250,\"start\":488.31999999999994,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" that you can still find online, it was open source after peep code was acquired.\",\"tokens\":[51304,300,291,393,920,915,2950,11,309,390,1269,4009,934,520,595,3089,390,17554,13,51504]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.3648174157303371,\"compression_ratio\":1.6150234741784038,\"end\":501.88,\"id\":113,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1363525390625,\"seek\":51814,\"start\":492.5,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" And then I started work on APRESS approach me about the Pro Git book and so the real sort\",\"tokens\":[50364,400,550,286,1409,589,322,5372,49,12268,3109,385,466,264,1705,16939,1446,293,370,264,957,1333,50836]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.3648174157303371,\"compression_ratio\":1.6150234741784038,\"end\":508.42,\"id\":114,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1363525390625,\"seek\":51814,\"start\":501.88,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" of publisher that you know, the Git book that you would read on, on gssm.com right now,\",\"tokens\":[50836,295,25088,300,291,458,11,264,16939,1446,300,291,576,1401,322,11,322,290,3810,76,13,1112,558,586,11,51204]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.3648174157303371,\"compression_ratio\":1.6150234741784038,\"end\":514.84,\"id\":115,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1363525390625,\"seek\":51814,\"start\":509.56,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" that's creative comments, dual licensed.
And so I started that after I started working\",\"tokens\":[51204,300,311,5880,3053,11,11848,25225,13,400,370,286,1409,300,934,286,1409,1364,51480]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.3648174157303371,\"compression_ratio\":1.6150234741784038,\"end\":518.14,\"id\":116,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1363525390625,\"seek\":51814,\"start\":514.84,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" at GitHub.
I was there for about a year probably before I started that project.\",\"tokens\":[51480,412,23331,13,286,390,456,337,466,257,1064,1391,949,286,1409,300,1716,13,51648]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.29281850961538464,\"compression_ratio\":1.408450704225352,\"end\":533.06,\"id\":117,\"no_speech_prob\":0.056610107421875,\"seek\":53306,\"start\":519.62,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" But yeah, so I've written a lot a lot of stuff on get the before that was the the peak code one though.
So so I'd I'd been I have no no end of interest in documenting and talking about get apparently.\",\"tokens\":[50364,583,1338,11,370,286,600,3720,257,688,257,688,295,1507,322,483,264,949,300,390,264,264,10651,3089,472,1673,13,407,370,286,1116,286,1116,668,286,362,572,572,917,295,1179,294,42360,293,1417,466,483,7970,13,51114]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1963574840764331,\"compression_ratio\":1.9047619047619047,\"end\":536.64,\"id\":118,\"no_speech_prob\":0.11907958984375,\"seek\":56240,\"start\":533.68,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" But yeah, to go back to your other question,\",\"tokens\":[50364,583,1338,11,281,352,646,281,428,661,1168,11,50549]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1963574840764331,\"compression_ratio\":1.9047619047619047,\"end\":537.98,\"id\":119,\"no_speech_prob\":0.11907958984375,\"seek\":56240,\"start\":536.82,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" like what you learn, 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We'd like to thank this week's episode sponsor, Clark.
If you've been on Twitter by now,\",\"tokens\":[51064,1484,18262,13,492,1116,411,281,1309,341,1243,311,3500,16198,11,18572,13,759,291,600,668,322,5794,538,586,11,51332]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17310531496062992,\"compression_ratio\":1.7464285714285714,\"end\":615.72,\"id\":144,\"no_speech_prob\":0.19384765625,\"seek\":61572,\"start\":611.02,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" everybody knows you don't want to roll your own off and Clark helps you do that with so many\",\"tokens\":[51332,2201,3255,291,500,380,528,281,3373,428,1065,766,293,18572,3665,291,360,300,365,370,867,51568]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1338743932038835,\"compression_ratio\":1.6744186046511629,\"end\":621.92,\"id\":145,\"no_speech_prob\":0.08502197265625,\"seek\":64234,\"start\":615.72,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" different cool options.
Clark provides full stack integrations for authentication that\",\"tokens\":[50364,819,1627,3956,13,18572,6417,1577,8630,3572,763,337,26643,300,50676]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1338743932038835,\"compression_ratio\":1.6744186046511629,\"end\":626.84,\"id\":146,\"no_speech_prob\":0.08502197265625,\"seek\":64234,\"start\":621.92,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" makes setting up authentication in your new app super easy.
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They have MFA, SSO, magic links, SMS, so many\",\"tokens\":[50922,295,819,31713,88,2592,337,33697,13,814,362,376,19684,11,12238,46,11,5585,6123,11,38107,11,370,867,51278]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1338743932038835,\"compression_ratio\":1.6744186046511629,\"end\":638.02,\"id\":148,\"no_speech_prob\":0.08502197265625,\"seek\":64234,\"start\":634,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" different ways to log in and you don't have to worry about it.
One thing that a lot of\",\"tokens\":[51278,819,2098,281,3565,294,293,291,500,380,362,281,3292,466,309,13,1485,551,300,257,688,295,51478]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1338743932038835,\"compression_ratio\":1.6744186046511629,\"end\":642.34,\"id\":149,\"no_speech_prob\":0.08502197265625,\"seek\":64234,\"start\":638.02,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" people don't think about when they're setting up a company is doing all of these more\",\"tokens\":[51478,561,500,380,519,466,562,436,434,3287,493,257,2237,307,884,439,295,613,544,51700]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.12662037037037038,\"compression_ratio\":1.7163742690058479,\"end\":647.18,\"id\":150,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1402587890625,\"seek\":67202,\"start\":642.34,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" enter pricey off things.
At the start of your business, you might not care.
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But as you integrate more business to business, it becomes more and\",\"tokens\":[50604,2199,3796,293,4195,11524,13,583,382,291,13365,544,1606,281,1606,11,309,3643,544,293,50876]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.12662037037037038,\"compression_ratio\":1.7163742690058479,\"end\":657.18,\"id\":152,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1402587890625,\"seek\":67202,\"start\":652.62,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" more important that you have these different types of authentication.
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You want to be able to deliver on these mission\",\"tokens\":[51104,729,3060,15962,2761,293,550,312,43164,292,337,2493,13,509,528,281,312,1075,281,4239,322,613,4447,51332]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.12662037037037038,\"compression_ratio\":1.7163742690058479,\"end\":666.78,\"id\":154,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1402587890625,\"seek\":67202,\"start\":661.7,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" critical features super easily.
One of the selling points for frontend developers is clerk offers\",\"tokens\":[51332,4924,4122,1687,3612,13,1485,295,264,6511,2793,337,1868,521,8849,307,31402,7736,51588]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.12662037037037038,\"compression_ratio\":1.7163742690058479,\"end\":672.02,\"id\":155,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1402587890625,\"seek\":67202,\"start\":666.78,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" a whole bunch of different pre-built UI components that you can use to just drop in your app and get\",\"tokens\":[51588,257,1379,3840,295,819,659,12,23018,15682,6677,300,291,393,764,281,445,3270,294,428,724,293,483,51848]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17865794573643412,\"compression_ratio\":1.7101910828025477,\"end\":676.92,\"id\":156,\"no_speech_prob\":0.2169189453125,\"seek\":69886,\"start\":672.02,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" going.
They also offer components for user profiles and organizations.
The best\",\"tokens\":[50364,516,13,814,611,2626,6677,337,4195,23693,293,6150,13,440,1151,50608]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17865794573643412,\"compression_ratio\":1.7101910828025477,\"end\":681.58,\"id\":157,\"no_speech_prob\":0.2169189453125,\"seek\":69886,\"start\":676.92,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" part about Quirk is they have an awesome free tier.
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They offer everything you need to authenticate and manage\",\"tokens\":[50842,12878,4967,5022,13,814,2626,1203,291,643,281,9214,8700,293,3067,51044]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17865794573643412,\"compression_ratio\":1.7101910828025477,\"end\":689.44,\"id\":159,\"no_speech_prob\":0.2169189453125,\"seek\":69886,\"start\":685.62,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" your users, freeing you to build the app that you want to instead of having to\",\"tokens\":[51044,428,5022,11,1737,278,291,281,1322,264,724,300,291,528,281,2602,295,1419,281,51236]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17865794573643412,\"compression_ratio\":1.7101910828025477,\"end\":692.3,\"id\":160,\"no_speech_prob\":0.2169189453125,\"seek\":69886,\"start\":689.44,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" deal with authentication.
Would you like to not hear these ads anymore?\",\"tokens\":[51236,2028,365,26643,13,6068,291,411,281,406,1568,613,10342,3602,30,51380]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17865794573643412,\"compression_ratio\":1.7101910828025477,\"end\":696.24,\"id\":161,\"no_speech_prob\":0.2169189453125,\"seek\":69886,\"start\":692.54,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" But come a member on one of the many platforms we offer memberships on.
With it\",\"tokens\":[51380,583,808,257,4006,322,472,295,264,867,9473,321,2626,2679,7640,322,13,2022,309,51576]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17865794573643412,\"compression_ratio\":1.7101910828025477,\"end\":698.86,\"id\":162,\"no_speech_prob\":0.2169189453125,\"seek\":69886,\"start\":696.24,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" you'll get ad free content and you'll get it a little bit earlier than\",\"tokens\":[51576,291,603,483,614,1737,2701,293,291,603,483,309,257,707,857,3071,813,51706]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.15362394957983194,\"compression_ratio\":1.674496644295302,\"end\":704.06,\"id\":163,\"no_speech_prob\":0.253662109375,\"seek\":72760,\"start\":698.86,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" everybody else.
And if you want to find another way to support the podcast, head over to shop.debtools.fm\",\"tokens\":[50364,2201,1646,13,400,498,291,528,281,915,1071,636,281,1406,264,7367,11,1378,670,281,3945,13,1479,4517,29298,13,69,76,50624]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.15362394957983194,\"compression_ratio\":1.674496644295302,\"end\":709.34,\"id\":164,\"no_speech_prob\":0.253662109375,\"seek\":72760,\"start\":704.06,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" where you can grab some merch.
And with that, let's get back to the episode.
Yeah, our past sponsor\",\"tokens\":[50624,689,291,393,4444,512,12618,13,400,365,300,11,718,311,483,646,281,264,3500,13,865,11,527,1791,16198,50892]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.15362394957983194,\"compression_ratio\":1.674496644295302,\"end\":716.66,\"id\":165,\"no_speech_prob\":0.253662109375,\"seek\":72760,\"start\":709.34,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" code crafters has this course where you build your own Git from scratch and so many different things\",\"tokens\":[50892,3089,2094,828,82,575,341,1164,689,291,1322,428,1065,16939,490,8459,293,370,867,819,721,51252]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.15362394957983194,\"compression_ratio\":1.674496644295302,\"end\":722.12,\"id\":166,\"no_speech_prob\":0.253662109375,\"seek\":72760,\"start\":716.66,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" that I built during that course just blew my mind.
The first being that Git started without being\",\"tokens\":[51252,300,286,3094,1830,300,1164,445,19075,452,1575,13,440,700,885,300,16939,1409,1553,885,51528]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.15362394957983194,\"compression_ratio\":1.674496644295302,\"end\":727.6,\"id\":167,\"no_speech_prob\":0.253662109375,\"seek\":72760,\"start\":722.12,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" a version control system and was really this lower level set of utilities you were supposed to\",\"tokens\":[51528,257,3037,1969,1185,293,390,534,341,3126,1496,992,295,30482,291,645,3442,281,51800]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.23972602739726026,\"compression_ratio\":1.7408637873754154,\"end\":729.3,\"id\":168,\"no_speech_prob\":0.09259033203125,\"seek\":75648,\"start\":727.6,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" build your own version control system on.\",\"tokens\":[50364,1322,428,1065,3037,1969,1185,322,13,50467]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.23972602739726026,\"compression_ratio\":1.7408637873754154,\"end\":730.7,\"id\":169,\"no_speech_prob\":0.09259033203125,\"seek\":75648,\"start\":729.64,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" It's like when I learned that, I was like,\",\"tokens\":[50467,467,311,411,562,286,3264,300,11,286,390,411,11,50525]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.23972602739726026,\"compression_ratio\":1.7408637873754154,\"end\":734.62,\"id\":170,\"no_speech_prob\":0.09259033203125,\"seek\":75648,\"start\":730.74,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" oh, I see Git Butler, it was just like the idea there\",\"tokens\":[50525,1954,11,286,536,16939,27571,11,309,390,445,411,264,1558,456,50721]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.23972602739726026,\"compression_ratio\":1.7408637873754154,\"end\":736.14,\"id\":171,\"no_speech_prob\":0.09259033203125,\"seek\":75648,\"start\":734.62,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" was just like calling to be made.\",\"tokens\":[50721,390,445,411,5141,281,312,1027,13,50837]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.23972602739726026,\"compression_ratio\":1.7408637873754154,\"end\":738.94,\"id\":172,\"no_speech_prob\":0.09259033203125,\"seek\":75648,\"start\":737.3800000000001,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" Yeah, actually, it's surprising\",\"tokens\":[50837,865,11,767,11,309,311,8830,50941]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.23972602739726026,\"compression_ratio\":1.7408637873754154,\"end\":742.12,\"id\":173,\"no_speech_prob\":0.09259033203125,\"seek\":75648,\"start\":738.94,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" that fewer version control systems have really done that, right?\",\"tokens\":[50941,300,13366,3037,1969,3652,362,534,1096,300,11,558,30,51097]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.23972602739726026,\"compression_ratio\":1.7408637873754154,\"end\":744.04,\"id\":174,\"no_speech_prob\":0.09259033203125,\"seek\":75648,\"start\":742.42,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" Like, there's nothing that kind of has\",\"tokens\":[51097,1743,11,456,311,1825,300,733,295,575,51193]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.23972602739726026,\"compression_ratio\":1.7408637873754154,\"end\":747.08,\"id\":175,\"no_speech_prob\":0.09259033203125,\"seek\":75648,\"start\":744.04,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" Git as the object database or the transport mechanism,\",\"tokens\":[51193,16939,382,264,2657,8149,420,264,5495,7513,11,51351]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.23972602739726026,\"compression_ratio\":1.7408637873754154,\"end\":750,\"id\":176,\"no_speech_prob\":0.09259033203125,\"seek\":75648,\"start\":747.08,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" right, of just saying, here's how to get trees from A to B,\",\"tokens\":[51351,558,11,295,445,1566,11,510,311,577,281,483,5852,490,316,281,363,11,51529]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.23972602739726026,\"compression_ratio\":1.7408637873754154,\"end\":754.26,\"id\":177,\"no_speech_prob\":0.09259033203125,\"seek\":75648,\"start\":750.6,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" which is, like you said, if you look at the first commit\",\"tokens\":[51529,597,307,11,411,291,848,11,498,291,574,412,264,700,5599,51705]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.23972602739726026,\"compression_ratio\":1.7408637873754154,\"end\":756.48,\"id\":178,\"no_speech_prob\":0.09259033203125,\"seek\":75648,\"start\":754.26,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" and Git, right, you can compile that C code\",\"tokens\":[51705,293,16939,11,558,11,291,393,31413,300,383,3089,51813]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.20285790598290598,\"compression_ratio\":1.7386363636363635,\"end\":762.9,\"id\":179,\"no_speech_prob\":0.09515380859375,\"seek\":78508,\"start\":756.48,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" and you can write stuff that's still generally readable by Git now, and the commands are a little obtuse,\",\"tokens\":[50364,293,291,393,2464,1507,300,311,920,5101,49857,538,16939,586,11,293,264,16901,366,257,707,7464,438,11,50684]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.20285790598290598,\"compression_ratio\":1.7386363636363635,\"end\":769.64,\"id\":180,\"no_speech_prob\":0.09515380859375,\"seek\":78508,\"start\":763.04,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" but it still does essentially what Git does, right?
And there wasn't, you know, essentially,\",\"tokens\":[50684,457,309,920,775,4476,437,16939,775,11,558,30,400,456,2067,380,11,291,458,11,4476,11,51040]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.20285790598290598,\"compression_ratio\":1.7386363636363635,\"end\":775.1,\"id\":181,\"no_speech_prob\":0.09515380859375,\"seek\":78508,\"start\":770.12,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" like the one guy, I forget what his name is, started writing some Perl scripts,\",\"tokens\":[51040,411,264,472,2146,11,286,2870,437,702,1315,307,11,1409,3579,512,3026,75,23294,11,51304]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.20285790598290598,\"compression_ratio\":1.7386363636363635,\"end\":779.12,\"id\":182,\"no_speech_prob\":0.09515380859375,\"seek\":78508,\"start\":775.1,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" you know, to kind of automate some of this, and then that just kind of got turned into the\",\"tokens\":[51304,291,458,11,281,733,295,31605,512,295,341,11,293,550,300,445,733,295,658,3574,666,264,51480]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.20285790598290598,\"compression_ratio\":1.7386363636363635,\"end\":785.08,\"id\":183,\"no_speech_prob\":0.09515380859375,\"seek\":78508,\"start\":779.66,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" porcelain stuff, right?
But it hasn't really been modified that much since then, and more\",\"tokens\":[51520,1515,4933,491,1507,11,558,30,583,309,6132,380,534,668,15873,300,709,1670,550,11,293,544,51792]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.21375512295081966,\"compression_ratio\":1.7282608695652173,\"end\":790.62,\"id\":184,\"no_speech_prob\":0.239013671875,\"seek\":81082,\"start\":785.08,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" more incredibly to me, nobody's come out with a GUI that doesn't just wrap all those commands,\",\"tokens\":[50364,544,6252,281,385,11,5079,311,808,484,365,257,17917,40,300,1177,380,445,7019,439,729,16901,11,50656]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.21375512295081966,\"compression_ratio\":1.7282608695652173,\"end\":794.64,\"id\":185,\"no_speech_prob\":0.239013671875,\"seek\":81082,\"start\":790.86,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" that comes up with some completely different way of doing it and just writes that database out,\",\"tokens\":[50656,300,1487,493,365,512,2584,819,636,295,884,309,293,445,13657,300,8149,484,11,50840]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.21375512295081966,\"compression_ratio\":1.7282608695652173,\"end\":798.48,\"id\":186,\"no_speech_prob\":0.239013671875,\"seek\":81082,\"start\":794.74,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" which is completely doable, which is mostly what we're doing.
It's easier now with us because\",\"tokens\":[50840,597,307,2584,41183,11,597,307,5240,437,321,434,884,13,467,311,3571,586,365,505,570,51032]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.21375512295081966,\"compression_ratio\":1.7282608695652173,\"end\":802.56,\"id\":187,\"no_speech_prob\":0.239013671875,\"seek\":81082,\"start\":798.48,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" we're using LiveGit 2, there's some libraries and stuff, you don't have to fork exec out everything,\",\"tokens\":[51032,321,434,1228,10385,38,270,568,11,456,311,512,15148,293,1507,11,291,500,380,362,281,17716,4454,484,1203,11,51240]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.21375512295081966,\"compression_ratio\":1.7282608695652173,\"end\":810.82,\"id\":188,\"no_speech_prob\":0.239013671875,\"seek\":81082,\"start\":803.88,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" but yeah, I mean, it's all a database and then tools on top of it and you don't have to use\",\"tokens\":[51296,457,1338,11,286,914,11,309,311,439,257,8149,293,550,3873,322,1192,295,309,293,291,500,380,362,281,764,51648]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.16835171568627452,\"compression_ratio\":1.6219512195121952,\"end\":816.32,\"id\":189,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1309814453125,\"seek\":83792,\"start\":810.82,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" those tools in order to use that database, right?
But, but it hasn't really been done a lot since then.\",\"tokens\":[50364,729,3873,294,1668,281,764,300,8149,11,558,30,583,11,457,309,6132,380,534,668,1096,257,688,1670,550,13,50652]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.16835171568627452,\"compression_ratio\":1.6219512195121952,\"end\":822.68,\"id\":190,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1309814453125,\"seek\":83792,\"start\":816.76,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" It is really interesting how like, I mean, obviously Git has won the sort of decentralized source\",\"tokens\":[50652,467,307,534,1880,577,411,11,286,914,11,2745,16939,575,1582,264,1333,295,32870,4009,50960]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.16835171568627452,\"compression_ratio\":1.6219512195121952,\"end\":831.7,\"id\":191,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1309814453125,\"seek\":83792,\"start\":822.68,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" control wars.
And, you know, it brings a lot of like incredible power to the developer.
And it's\",\"tokens\":[50960,1969,13718,13,400,11,291,458,11,309,5607,257,688,295,411,4651,1347,281,264,10754,13,400,309,311,51404]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.16835171568627452,\"compression_ratio\":1.6219512195121952,\"end\":837.92,\"id\":192,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1309814453125,\"seek\":83792,\"start\":831.7,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" been a great tool, but it feels like of the tools in our tool chain that we rely on so much.
It kind\",\"tokens\":[51404,668,257,869,2290,11,457,309,3417,411,295,264,3873,294,527,2290,5021,300,321,10687,322,370,709,13,467,733,51720]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.19924726277372262,\"compression_ratio\":1.7578616352201257,\"end\":842.34,\"id\":193,\"no_speech_prob\":0.159912109375,\"seek\":86660,\"start\":837.92,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" of shows, it's like there are definitely some words that like people are more and more aware of.\",\"tokens\":[50364,295,3110,11,309,311,411,456,366,2138,512,2283,300,411,561,366,544,293,544,3650,295,13,50584]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.19924726277372262,\"compression_ratio\":1.7578616352201257,\"end\":846.52,\"id\":194,\"no_speech_prob\":0.159912109375,\"seek\":86660,\"start\":842.46,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" And especially if you have like younger engineers who this is like as you mentioned earlier,\",\"tokens\":[50584,400,2318,498,291,362,411,7037,11955,567,341,307,411,382,291,2835,3071,11,50792]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.19924726277372262,\"compression_ratio\":1.7578616352201257,\"end\":850.96,\"id\":195,\"no_speech_prob\":0.159912109375,\"seek\":86660,\"start\":846.62,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" this is all they know.
And they get into it and they're like, oh god, I messed up.
What do I do?\",\"tokens\":[50792,341,307,439,436,458,13,400,436,483,666,309,293,436,434,411,11,1954,3044,11,286,16507,493,13,708,360,286,360,30,51016]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.19924726277372262,\"compression_ratio\":1.7578616352201257,\"end\":856.18,\"id\":196,\"no_speech_prob\":0.159912109375,\"seek\":86660,\"start\":851.7,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" You teach them about like reflog or something.
And there's like, there's a lot of overhead\",\"tokens\":[51068,509,2924,552,466,411,1895,4987,420,746,13,400,456,311,411,11,456,311,257,688,295,19922,51280]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.19924726277372262,\"compression_ratio\":1.7578616352201257,\"end\":862.36,\"id\":197,\"no_speech_prob\":0.159912109375,\"seek\":86660,\"start\":856.18,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" to just the workflow and the UX that's there.
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And none of the tools are really very focused on that.\",\"tokens\":[50596,293,5003,300,382,3612,382,1944,13,400,6022,295,264,3873,366,534,588,5178,322,300,13,50860]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.19091796875,\"compression_ratio\":1.6437768240343347,\"end\":1068.12,\"id\":257,\"no_speech_prob\":0.19873046875,\"seek\":107660,\"start\":1063.02,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" And I think it could be very different.
I want to move on to talk about Git Butler.
But before we do,\",\"tokens\":[50860,400,286,519,309,727,312,588,819,13,286,528,281,1286,322,281,751,466,16939,27571,13,583,949,321,360,11,51132]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.19091796875,\"compression_ratio\":1.6437768240343347,\"end\":1076.6,\"id\":258,\"no_speech_prob\":0.19873046875,\"seek\":107660,\"start\":1068.36,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" I have one question for you about GitHub and its legacy.
So the pull-acres model is something\",\"tokens\":[51132,286,362,472,1168,337,291,466,23331,293,1080,11711,13,407,264,2235,12,326,495,2316,307,746,51548]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1526377688172043,\"compression_ratio\":1.7455357142857142,\"end\":1083.26,\"id\":259,\"no_speech_prob\":0.053375244140625,\"seek\":110254,\"start\":1076.6,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" that I contribute to GitHub is it's kind of changed how a lot of people think about contributing\",\"tokens\":[50364,300,286,10586,281,23331,307,309,311,733,295,3105,577,257,688,295,561,519,466,19270,50704]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1526377688172043,\"compression_ratio\":1.7455357142857142,\"end\":1088.94,\"id\":260,\"no_speech_prob\":0.053375244140625,\"seek\":110254,\"start\":1083.26,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" to a Git codebase, you know, specifically through GitHub.
But there is this one thing that I've\",\"tokens\":[50704,281,257,16939,3089,17429,11,291,458,11,4682,807,23331,13,583,456,307,341,472,551,300,286,600,50976]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1526377688172043,\"compression_ratio\":1.7455357142857142,\"end\":1097.8,\"id\":261,\"no_speech_prob\":0.053375244140625,\"seek\":110254,\"start\":1088.94,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" heard repeatedly about the sort of side effects of how pull requests work.
So you create a pull request,\",\"tokens\":[50976,2198,18227,466,264,1333,295,1252,5065,295,577,2235,12475,589,13,407,291,1884,257,2235,5308,11,51432]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1526377688172043,\"compression_ratio\":1.7455357142857142,\"end\":1102.54,\"id\":262,\"no_speech_prob\":0.053375244140625,\"seek\":110254,\"start\":1098.52,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" you have a branch and you create a pull request from that branch and you've got a lot of code\",\"tokens\":[51468,291,362,257,9819,293,291,1884,257,2235,5308,490,300,9819,293,291,600,658,257,688,295,3089,51660]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.19108072916666666,\"compression_ratio\":1.7836065573770492,\"end\":1106.14,\"id\":263,\"no_speech_prob\":0.2041015625,\"seek\":113146,\"start\":1102.54,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" committed and then people come in and review it.
So it's like, there's almost this encourage\",\"tokens\":[50364,7784,293,550,561,808,294,293,3131,309,13,407,309,311,411,11,456,311,1920,341,5373,50546]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.19108072916666666,\"compression_ratio\":1.7836065573770492,\"end\":1113.2,\"id\":264,\"no_speech_prob\":0.2041015625,\"seek\":113146,\"start\":1106.14,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" to like review later in the process.
Um, and the other thing is it's like, this is just,\",\"tokens\":[50546,281,411,3131,1780,294,264,1399,13,3301,11,293,264,661,551,307,309,311,411,11,341,307,445,11,50908]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.19108072916666666,\"compression_ratio\":1.7836065573770492,\"end\":1117.38,\"id\":265,\"no_speech_prob\":0.2041015625,\"seek\":113146,\"start\":1113.36,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" you know, a part of Git.
And again, I think this is T off our conversation with Git Butler.\",\"tokens\":[50908,291,458,11,257,644,295,16939,13,400,797,11,286,519,341,307,314,766,527,3761,365,16939,27571,13,51120]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.19108072916666666,\"compression_ratio\":1.7836065573770492,\"end\":1122.74,\"id\":266,\"no_speech_prob\":0.2041015625,\"seek\":113146,\"start\":1117.46,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" But like, poor requests tend to get larger over time, like bigger because it's like harder\",\"tokens\":[51120,583,411,11,4716,12475,3928,281,483,4833,670,565,11,411,3801,570,309,311,411,6081,51376]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.19108072916666666,\"compression_ratio\":1.7836065573770492,\"end\":1126.08,\"id\":267,\"no_speech_prob\":0.2041015625,\"seek\":113146,\"start\":1122.74,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" to break those things down.
I've heard a lot of people wishing there were things like stacked\",\"tokens\":[51376,281,1821,729,721,760,13,286,600,2198,257,688,295,561,30049,456,645,721,411,28867,51542]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.19108072916666666,\"compression_ratio\":1.7836065573770492,\"end\":1131.46,\"id\":268,\"no_speech_prob\":0.2041015625,\"seek\":113146,\"start\":1126.5,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" PRs, like you could do that easier.
Um, and I mean, I feel like a lot of this is, you\",\"tokens\":[51542,11568,82,11,411,291,727,360,300,3571,13,3301,11,293,286,914,11,286,841,411,257,688,295,341,307,11,291,51810]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.2232638888888889,\"compression_ratio\":1.8496503496503496,\"end\":1135.02,\"id\":269,\"no_speech_prob\":0.05181884765625,\"seek\":115942,\"start\":1131.46,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" You know, just derived from the primitives of the pull request, you know, that legacy\",\"tokens\":[50364,509,458,11,445,18949,490,264,2886,38970,295,264,2235,5308,11,291,458,11,300,11711,50546]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.2232638888888889,\"compression_ratio\":1.8496503496503496,\"end\":1138.88,\"id\":270,\"no_speech_prob\":0.05181884765625,\"seek\":115942,\"start\":1135.02,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" of like how GitHub introduced how we merged changes into a code 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Like if you think about the mailing\",\"tokens\":[50896,1214,420,746,293,733,295,589,322,257,2638,295,26531,13,1743,498,291,519,466,264,41612,51200]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.15995762711864406,\"compression_ratio\":1.7481751824817517,\"end\":1208.3,\"id\":291,\"no_speech_prob\":0.032562255859375,\"seek\":121194,\"start\":1202.78,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" list, right, or how you would communicate over a mailing list, even with Git today, if you want\",\"tokens\":[51200,1329,11,558,11,420,577,291,576,7890,670,257,41612,1329,11,754,365,16939,965,11,498,291,528,51468]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.15995762711864406,\"compression_ratio\":1.7481751824817517,\"end\":1211.94,\"id\":292,\"no_speech_prob\":0.032562255859375,\"seek\":121194,\"start\":1208.3,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" to contribute to Git or to Linux kernel or something, and you used Git to do this, a lot of the\",\"tokens\":[51468,281,10586,281,16939,420,281,18734,28256,420,746,11,293,291,1143,16939,281,360,341,11,257,688,295,264,51652]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.21785071942446044,\"compression_ratio\":1.9110320284697508,\"end\":1214.78,\"id\":293,\"no_speech_prob\":0.02593994140625,\"seek\":123832,\"start\":1211.94,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" really tools were developed to send series of patches of\",\"tokens\":[50364,534,3873,645,4743,281,2845,2638,295,26531,295,50506]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.21785071942446044,\"compression_ratio\":1.9110320284697508,\"end\":1217.7,\"id\":294,\"no_speech_prob\":0.02593994140625,\"seek\":123832,\"start\":1214.78,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" email.
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So in making it easy, what we did was make it so that if somebody gives you some\",\"tokens\":[50640,293,1507,13,407,294,1455,309,1858,11,437,321,630,390,652,309,370,300,498,2618,2709,291,512,51012]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.18788739669421486,\"compression_ratio\":1.7323420074349443,\"end\":1284.68,\"id\":315,\"no_speech_prob\":0.08740234375,\"seek\":129380,\"start\":1279.2,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" review and you want to fix a bug, what's easiest is to fix the bug and then you do a new commit\",\"tokens\":[51012,3131,293,291,528,281,3191,257,7426,11,437,311,12889,307,281,3191,264,7426,293,550,291,360,257,777,5599,51296]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.18788739669421486,\"compression_ratio\":1.7323420074349443,\"end\":1288.28,\"id\":316,\"no_speech_prob\":0.08740234375,\"seek\":129380,\"start\":1284.68,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" because now you don't have to learn, not everybody has to learn how to be a rebase master,\",\"tokens\":[51296,570,586,291,500,380,362,281,1466,11,406,2201,575,281,1466,577,281,312,257,12970,651,4505,11,51476]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.18788739669421486,\"compression_ratio\":1.7323420074349443,\"end\":1293.8,\"id\":317,\"no_speech_prob\":0.08740234375,\"seek\":129380,\"start\":1288.62,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" right, which you otherwise have to.
You have to be very, very good at sort of all of that\",\"tokens\":[51476,558,11,597,291,5911,362,281,13,509,362,281,312,588,11,588,665,412,1333,295,439,295,300,51756]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.15306122448979592,\"compression_ratio\":1.83125,\"end\":1299.4,\"id\":318,\"no_speech_prob\":0.2418212890625,\"seek\":132122,\"start\":1293.8,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" that rebasing type and interactive rebasing and stopping and amending something and squashing and\",\"tokens\":[50364,300,12970,3349,2010,293,15141,12970,3349,293,12767,293,669,2029,746,293,2339,11077,293,50640]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.15306122448979592,\"compression_ratio\":1.83125,\"end\":1303.54,\"id\":319,\"no_speech_prob\":0.2418212890625,\"seek\":132122,\"start\":1299.4,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" all that.
And we wanted to not have that be a barrier, right?
You could just use Git for everything\",\"tokens\":[50640,439,300,13,400,321,1415,281,406,362,300,312,257,13357,11,558,30,509,727,445,764,16939,337,1203,50848]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.15306122448979592,\"compression_ratio\":1.83125,\"end\":1309.06,\"id\":320,\"no_speech_prob\":0.2418212890625,\"seek\":132122,\"start\":1303.54,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" that it's really good at.
And for collaboration, who cares, right?
Like just add the thing that fixes\",\"tokens\":[50848,300,309,311,534,665,412,13,400,337,9363,11,567,12310,11,558,30,1743,445,909,264,551,300,32539,51128]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.15306122448979592,\"compression_ratio\":1.83125,\"end\":1313.84,\"id\":321,\"no_speech_prob\":0.2418212890625,\"seek\":132122,\"start\":1309.06,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" it, but it breaks blame and it breaks a lot of stuff and it makes it makes review really difficult\",\"tokens\":[51128,309,11,457,309,9857,10127,293,309,9857,257,688,295,1507,293,309,1669,309,1669,3131,534,2252,51368]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.15306122448979592,\"compression_ratio\":1.83125,\"end\":1317.54,\"id\":322,\"no_speech_prob\":0.2418212890625,\"seek\":132122,\"start\":1313.84,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" because we didn't do review it on a per commit basis, right?
We're doing it on this unified\",\"tokens\":[51368,570,321,994,380,360,3131,309,322,257,680,5599,5143,11,558,30,492,434,884,309,322,341,26787,51548]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.15306122448979592,\"compression_ratio\":1.83125,\"end\":1321.22,\"id\":323,\"no_speech_prob\":0.2418212890625,\"seek\":132122,\"start\":1317.54,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" div basis.
And so I think there's, you know, there's sort of pluses and minuses to that to that\",\"tokens\":[51548,3414,5143,13,400,370,286,519,456,311,11,291,458,11,456,311,1333,295,1804,279,293,3175,279,281,300,281,300,51736]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17410714285714285,\"compression_ratio\":1.6830357142857142,\"end\":1326.7,\"id\":324,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1021728515625,\"seek\":134576,\"start\":1321.22,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" process.
I think that there is space for some sort of review system that is more patch-based.\",\"tokens\":[50364,1399,13,286,519,300,456,307,1901,337,512,1333,295,3131,1185,300,307,544,9972,12,6032,13,50660]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17410714285714285,\"compression_ratio\":1.6830357142857142,\"end\":1332.94,\"id\":325,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1021728515625,\"seek\":134576,\"start\":1327.18,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" What StackDiffs really try to do is bring back this concept of reviewing on a commit basis,\",\"tokens\":[50660,708,37649,35,17643,534,853,281,360,307,1565,646,341,3410,295,19576,322,257,5599,5143,11,50952]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17410714285714285,\"compression_ratio\":1.6830357142857142,\"end\":1340.98,\"id\":326,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1021728515625,\"seek\":134576,\"start\":1333.14,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" and the way that they do it is by throwing several branch pointers into a branch.
Essentially,\",\"tokens\":[50952,293,264,636,300,436,360,309,307,538,10238,2940,9819,44548,666,257,9819,13,23596,11,51344]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17410714285714285,\"compression_ratio\":1.6830357142857142,\"end\":1345.76,\"id\":327,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1021728515625,\"seek\":134576,\"start\":1341.12,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" every commit has its own branch, and then they're all based on each other so that you can review\",\"tokens\":[51344,633,5599,575,1080,1065,9819,11,293,550,436,434,439,2361,322,1184,661,370,300,291,393,3131,51592]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.16078969594594594,\"compression_ratio\":1.8382838283828382,\"end\":1349.94,\"id\":328,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1309814453125,\"seek\":137530,\"start\":1345.76,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" them.
But really, you know, you just want to review kind of one committed at a time or be\",\"tokens\":[50364,552,13,583,534,11,291,458,11,291,445,528,281,3131,733,295,472,7784,412,257,565,420,312,50572]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.16078969594594594,\"compression_ratio\":1.8382838283828382,\"end\":1354.68,\"id\":329,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1309814453125,\"seek\":137530,\"start\":1349.94,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" good at, you know, have everybody be good at rebasing.
So, so, you know, I think that there's\",\"tokens\":[50572,665,412,11,291,458,11,362,2201,312,665,412,12970,3349,13,407,11,370,11,291,458,11,286,519,300,456,311,50808]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.16078969594594594,\"compression_ratio\":1.8382838283828382,\"end\":1359.84,\"id\":330,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1309814453125,\"seek\":137530,\"start\":1354.68,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" something in between that.
We, I think the, the, the future, like what would be really nice\",\"tokens\":[50808,746,294,1296,300,13,492,11,286,519,264,11,264,11,264,2027,11,411,437,576,312,534,1481,51068]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.16078969594594594,\"compression_ratio\":1.8382838283828382,\"end\":1363.8,\"id\":331,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1309814453125,\"seek\":137530,\"start\":1359.84,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" with some combination of these things, right?
Where you can, you can have something online,\",\"tokens\":[51068,365,512,6562,295,613,721,11,558,30,2305,291,393,11,291,393,362,746,2950,11,51276]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.16078969594594594,\"compression_ratio\":1.8382838283828382,\"end\":1368.82,\"id\":332,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1309814453125,\"seek\":137530,\"start\":1364.18,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" it can have a nice review process, it can be on a per commit basis.
I think stack diffs is just\",\"tokens\":[51276,309,393,362,257,1481,3131,1399,11,309,393,312,322,257,680,5599,5143,13,286,519,8630,7593,82,307,445,51524]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.16078969594594594,\"compression_ratio\":1.8382838283828382,\"end\":1375.3,\"id\":333,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1309814453125,\"seek\":137530,\"start\":1368.82,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" a way of, of getting around how, what GitHub's interface is rather than that's really how you\",\"tokens\":[51524,257,636,295,11,295,1242,926,577,11,437,23331,311,9226,307,2831,813,300,311,534,577,291,51840]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.27115384615384613,\"compression_ratio\":1.896265560165975,\"end\":1376.98,\"id\":334,\"no_speech_prob\":0.05828857421875,\"seek\":140230,\"start\":1375.3,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" you want to review stuff, right?\",\"tokens\":[50364,291,528,281,3131,1507,11,558,30,50514]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.27115384615384613,\"compression_ratio\":1.896265560165975,\"end\":1381.4,\"id\":335,\"no_speech_prob\":0.05828857421875,\"seek\":140230,\"start\":1378.1000000000001,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" So, but in the end of the day, what you really want\",\"tokens\":[50514,407,11,457,294,264,917,295,264,786,11,437,291,534,528,50672]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.27115384615384613,\"compression_ratio\":1.896265560165975,\"end\":1384.88,\"id\":336,\"no_speech_prob\":0.05828857421875,\"seek\":140230,\"start\":1381.4,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" is do you want the reviewers job to be easier than your,\",\"tokens\":[50672,307,360,291,528,264,45837,1691,281,312,3571,813,428,11,50858]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.27115384615384613,\"compression_ratio\":1.896265560165975,\"end\":1386.46,\"id\":337,\"no_speech_prob\":0.05828857421875,\"seek\":140230,\"start\":1385.12,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" like, if your tools are easy,\",\"tokens\":[50858,411,11,498,428,3873,366,1858,11,50944]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.27115384615384613,\"compression_ratio\":1.896265560165975,\"end\":1388.48,\"id\":338,\"no_speech_prob\":0.05828857421875,\"seek\":140230,\"start\":1386.84,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" you really want the reviewers job to be easy\",\"tokens\":[50944,291,534,528,264,45837,1691,281,312,1858,51026]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.27115384615384613,\"compression_ratio\":1.896265560165975,\"end\":1390.28,\"id\":339,\"no_speech_prob\":0.05828857421875,\"seek\":140230,\"start\":1388.48,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" because you don't want them to come into some massive\",\"tokens\":[51026,570,291,500,380,528,552,281,808,666,512,5994,51162]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.27115384615384613,\"compression_ratio\":1.896265560165975,\"end\":1394.74,\"id\":340,\"no_speech_prob\":0.05828857421875,\"seek\":140230,\"start\":1391.18,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" unified diff and there's issues with that as well.\",\"tokens\":[51162,26787,7593,293,456,311,2663,365,300,382,731,13,51344]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.27115384615384613,\"compression_ratio\":1.896265560165975,\"end\":1396.8,\"id\":341,\"no_speech_prob\":0.05828857421875,\"seek\":140230,\"start\":1394.98,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" Like, everything's in alphabetical order, right?\",\"tokens\":[51344,1743,11,1203,311,294,23339,804,1668,11,558,30,51444]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.27115384615384613,\"compression_ratio\":1.896265560165975,\"end\":1399.72,\"id\":342,\"no_speech_prob\":0.05828857421875,\"seek\":140230,\"start\":1397.04,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" Like, like, if you want to test a file\",\"tokens\":[51444,1743,11,411,11,498,291,528,281,1500,257,3991,51594]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.27115384615384613,\"compression_ratio\":1.896265560165975,\"end\":1402.3,\"id\":343,\"no_speech_prob\":0.05828857421875,\"seek\":140230,\"start\":1399.72,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" or you want to review a file and then the test,\",\"tokens\":[51594,420,291,528,281,3131,257,3991,293,550,264,1500,11,51720]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.2277892561983471,\"compression_ratio\":1.6881720430107527,\"end\":1408.36,\"id\":344,\"no_speech_prob\":0.07049560546875,\"seek\":142992,\"start\":1402.3,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" test that file and they're at complete opposite ends of the unified diff.
It's really frustrating.\",\"tokens\":[50364,1500,300,3991,293,436,434,412,3566,6182,5314,295,264,26787,7593,13,467,311,534,16522,13,50672]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.2277892561983471,\"compression_ratio\":1.6881720430107527,\"end\":1413.88,\"id\":345,\"no_speech_prob\":0.07049560546875,\"seek\":142992,\"start\":1408.88,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" You want more of a story of, here's what happened and so, you know, sending patches,\",\"tokens\":[50672,509,528,544,295,257,1657,295,11,510,311,437,2011,293,370,11,291,458,11,7750,26531,11,50960]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.2277892561983471,\"compression_ratio\":1.6881720430107527,\"end\":1418.02,\"id\":346,\"no_speech_prob\":0.07049560546875,\"seek\":142992,\"start\":1414.2,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" having a nice patch series and sending to a mailing list kind of gives you that story in a\",\"tokens\":[50960,1419,257,1481,9972,2638,293,7750,281,257,41612,1329,733,295,2709,291,300,1657,294,257,51160]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.2277892561983471,\"compression_ratio\":1.6881720430107527,\"end\":1424.12,\"id\":347,\"no_speech_prob\":0.07049560546875,\"seek\":142992,\"start\":1418.02,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" more reviewable way, I think.
But GitHub, it's difficult to do that way, right?
So you have graphite\",\"tokens\":[51160,544,3131,712,636,11,286,519,13,583,23331,11,309,311,2252,281,360,300,636,11,558,30,407,291,362,4295,642,51456]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.2277892561983471,\"compression_ratio\":1.6881720430107527,\"end\":1429.92,\"id\":348,\"no_speech_prob\":0.07049560546875,\"seek\":142992,\"start\":1424.12,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" or you have fabricator, you have these tools that kind of help do both, right?
Be in the GitHub\",\"tokens\":[51456,420,291,362,7253,1639,11,291,362,613,3873,300,733,295,854,360,1293,11,558,30,879,294,264,23331,51748]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.20589717741935484,\"compression_ratio\":1.710344827586207,\"end\":1434.64,\"id\":349,\"no_speech_prob\":0.31298828125,\"seek\":145738,\"start\":1429.92,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" world, but also do review in a way that's a little bit more approachable for larger sets or for\",\"tokens\":[50364,1002,11,457,611,360,3131,294,257,636,300,311,257,707,857,544,3109,712,337,4833,6352,420,337,50600]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.20589717741935484,\"compression_ratio\":1.710344827586207,\"end\":1439.34,\"id\":350,\"no_speech_prob\":0.31298828125,\"seek\":145738,\"start\":1434.64,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" if you want to learn in your history or something.
I don't know if I've really answered your question\",\"tokens\":[50600,498,291,528,281,1466,294,428,2503,420,746,13,286,500,380,458,498,286,600,534,10103,428,1168,50840]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.20589717741935484,\"compression_ratio\":1.710344827586207,\"end\":1446.26,\"id\":351,\"no_speech_prob\":0.31298828125,\"seek\":145738,\"start\":1439.34,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" rather than drawn on a bit, but I think there's still room in the world for a much better review\",\"tokens\":[50840,2831,813,10117,322,257,857,11,457,286,519,456,311,920,1808,294,264,1002,337,257,709,1101,3131,51184]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.20589717741935484,\"compression_ratio\":1.710344827586207,\"end\":1451.92,\"id\":352,\"no_speech_prob\":0.31298828125,\"seek\":145738,\"start\":1446.26,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" system if we have tools that help make rebasing easier.
If you're using Gijitsu and that is everybody's\",\"tokens\":[51184,1185,498,321,362,3873,300,854,652,12970,3349,3571,13,759,291,434,1228,460,1718,35711,293,300,307,2201,311,51460]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.20589717741935484,\"compression_ratio\":1.710344827586207,\"end\":1457.38,\"id\":353,\"no_speech_prob\":0.31298828125,\"seek\":145738,\"start\":1451.92,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" using that or if you're using hopefully GitBuller makes that easier at some point and you're more\",\"tokens\":[51460,1228,300,420,498,291,434,1228,4696,16939,33,858,260,1669,300,3571,412,512,935,293,291,434,544,51736]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1151463963963964,\"compression_ratio\":1.8803088803088803,\"end\":1462.76,\"id\":354,\"no_speech_prob\":0.224853515625,\"seek\":148510,\"start\":1457.38,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" worried about what is my patch series look like and you have review tools that are good at reviewing\",\"tokens\":[50364,5804,466,437,307,452,9972,2638,574,411,293,291,362,3131,3873,300,366,665,412,19576,50636]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1151463963963964,\"compression_ratio\":1.8803088803088803,\"end\":1467.96,\"id\":355,\"no_speech_prob\":0.224853515625,\"seek\":148510,\"start\":1462.76,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" those types of you know things that are rebased a lot like force pushing to get up branches\",\"tokens\":[50636,729,3467,295,291,458,721,300,366,12970,1937,257,688,411,3464,7380,281,483,493,14770,50904]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1151463963963964,\"compression_ratio\":1.8803088803088803,\"end\":1472.48,\"id\":356,\"no_speech_prob\":0.224853515625,\"seek\":148510,\"start\":1467.96,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" is a pain for everybody right like like so you have to have something that kind of helps mitigate\",\"tokens\":[50904,307,257,1822,337,2201,558,411,411,370,291,362,281,362,746,300,733,295,3665,27336,51120]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1151463963963964,\"compression_ratio\":1.8803088803088803,\"end\":1479.6,\"id\":357,\"no_speech_prob\":0.224853515625,\"seek\":148510,\"start\":1472.48,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" that but but if you do if the tools make that easy and if the review sort of has I think splitting\",\"tokens\":[51120,300,457,457,498,291,360,498,264,3873,652,300,1858,293,498,264,3131,1333,295,575,286,519,30348,51476]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1151463963963964,\"compression_ratio\":1.8803088803088803,\"end\":1485.1,\"id\":358,\"no_speech_prob\":0.224853515625,\"seek\":148510,\"start\":1479.6,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" up review into commits or being able to tell more of a story with your with your history would be\",\"tokens\":[51476,493,3131,666,48311,420,885,1075,281,980,544,295,257,1657,365,428,365,428,2503,576,312,51748]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.19325657894736842,\"compression_ratio\":1.719298245614035,\"end\":1486.76,\"id\":359,\"no_speech_prob\":0.14208984375,\"seek\":151164,\"start\":1485.1,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" much, much better way of collaborating.\",\"tokens\":[50364,709,11,709,1101,636,295,30188,13,50464]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.19325657894736842,\"compression_ratio\":1.719298245614035,\"end\":1491.16,\"id\":360,\"no_speech_prob\":0.14208984375,\"seek\":151164,\"start\":1487.2,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" Yeah, I am so surprised that anything got done back in the email patch days.\",\"tokens\":[50464,865,11,286,669,370,6100,300,1340,658,1096,646,294,264,3796,9972,1708,13,50672]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.19325657894736842,\"compression_ratio\":1.719298245614035,\"end\":1497.14,\"id\":361,\"no_speech_prob\":0.14208984375,\"seek\":151164,\"start\":1491.4,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" Like, I've very much grown up in the, like, get basically only, like, I used a little bit of\",\"tokens\":[50672,1743,11,286,600,588,709,7709,493,294,264,11,411,11,483,1936,787,11,411,11,286,1143,257,707,857,295,50964]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.19325657894736842,\"compression_ratio\":1.719298245614035,\"end\":1502.22,\"id\":362,\"no_speech_prob\":0.14208984375,\"seek\":151164,\"start\":1497.14,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" perforce when I was in intern, but like, doing that over email just seems like an impossible\",\"tokens\":[50964,680,5156,562,286,390,294,2154,11,457,411,11,884,300,670,3796,445,2544,411,364,6243,51224]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.19325657894736842,\"compression_ratio\":1.719298245614035,\"end\":1507.86,\"id\":363,\"no_speech_prob\":0.14208984375,\"seek\":151164,\"start\":1502.22,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" task to me.
Yeah, it's fascinating.
It's fascinating to look at that, at that, like, you know,\",\"tokens\":[51224,5633,281,385,13,865,11,309,311,10343,13,467,311,10343,281,574,412,300,11,412,300,11,411,11,291,458,11,51500]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.19325657894736842,\"compression_ratio\":1.719298245614035,\"end\":1511.64,\"id\":364,\"no_speech_prob\":0.14208984375,\"seek\":151164,\"start\":1507.98,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" I've been trying to kind of learn, like I said, what people's workflows are, and it's really\",\"tokens\":[51500,286,600,668,1382,281,733,295,1466,11,411,286,848,11,437,561,311,43461,366,11,293,309,311,534,51696]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.16727941176470587,\"compression_ratio\":1.8914473684210527,\"end\":1516.28,\"id\":365,\"no_speech_prob\":0.271728515625,\"seek\":153938,\"start\":1511.64,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" interesting workflow, right?
It's very different than sort of the GitHub workflow, and it has\",\"tokens\":[50364,1880,20993,11,558,30,467,311,588,819,813,1333,295,264,23331,20993,11,293,309,575,50592]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.16727941176470587,\"compression_ratio\":1.8914473684210527,\"end\":1520.92,\"id\":366,\"no_speech_prob\":0.271728515625,\"seek\":153938,\"start\":1516.28,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" pluses and minuses.
But like some of the, you know, it's interesting to see, you know, V10 of a\",\"tokens\":[50592,1804,279,293,3175,279,13,583,411,512,295,264,11,291,458,11,309,311,1880,281,536,11,291,458,11,691,3279,295,257,50824]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.16727941176470587,\"compression_ratio\":1.8914473684210527,\"end\":1525.56,\"id\":367,\"no_speech_prob\":0.271728515625,\"seek\":153938,\"start\":1520.92,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" series or something, right?
Where you can see the previous versions in the previous comments and\",\"tokens\":[50824,2638,420,746,11,558,30,2305,291,393,536,264,3894,9606,294,264,3894,3053,293,51072]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.16727941176470587,\"compression_ratio\":1.8914473684210527,\"end\":1531.22,\"id\":368,\"no_speech_prob\":0.271728515625,\"seek\":153938,\"start\":1525.56,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" what was addressed and, you know, sort of it gives you this nice story.
And it's, again, this one\",\"tokens\":[51072,437,390,13847,293,11,291,458,11,1333,295,309,2709,291,341,1481,1657,13,400,309,311,11,797,11,341,472,51364]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.16727941176470587,\"compression_ratio\":1.8914473684210527,\"end\":1536.38,\"id\":369,\"no_speech_prob\":0.271728515625,\"seek\":153938,\"start\":1531.22,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" sort of email per commit.
So you can just look at the ones that you're interested in if you want.\",\"tokens\":[51364,1333,295,3796,680,5599,13,407,291,393,445,574,412,264,2306,300,291,434,3102,294,498,291,528,13,51600]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.16727941176470587,\"compression_ratio\":1.8914473684210527,\"end\":1539.38,\"id\":370,\"no_speech_prob\":0.271728515625,\"seek\":153938,\"start\":1536.52,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" Just, I'm, you know, I'm the front end event.
I'm just going to look at the front end commit\",\"tokens\":[51600,1449,11,286,478,11,291,458,11,286,478,264,1868,917,2280,13,286,478,445,516,281,574,412,264,1868,917,5599,51752]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17469262295081966,\"compression_ratio\":1.6491228070175439,\"end\":1545.3,\"id\":371,\"no_speech_prob\":0.2117919921875,\"seek\":156766,\"start\":1539.38,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" or whatever, right?
And it's specifically documented.
And you can kind of inline comment in the patch,\",\"tokens\":[50364,420,2035,11,558,30,400,309,311,4682,23007,13,400,291,393,733,295,294,1889,2871,294,264,9972,11,50656]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17469262295081966,\"compression_ratio\":1.6491228070175439,\"end\":1552.66,\"id\":372,\"no_speech_prob\":0.2117919921875,\"seek\":156766,\"start\":1545.36,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" right?
Like it's really, it has power that you lose with using GitHub PRs. And again,\",\"tokens\":[50656,558,30,1743,309,311,534,11,309,575,1347,300,291,3624,365,1228,23331,11568,82,13,400,797,11,51040]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17469262295081966,\"compression_ratio\":1.6491228070175439,\"end\":1557.78,\"id\":373,\"no_speech_prob\":0.2117919921875,\"seek\":156766,\"start\":1552.86,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" it's much harder to use, right?
So you have to have this high bar for everyone to come in on it,\",\"tokens\":[51040,309,311,709,6081,281,764,11,558,30,407,291,362,281,362,341,1090,2159,337,1518,281,808,294,322,309,11,51280]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17469262295081966,\"compression_ratio\":1.6491228070175439,\"end\":1563.24,\"id\":374,\"no_speech_prob\":0.2117919921875,\"seek\":156766,\"start\":1557.82,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" which is not necessarily a good thing either, right?
But yeah, some middle ground, I think,\",\"tokens\":[51280,597,307,406,4725,257,665,551,2139,11,558,30,583,1338,11,512,2808,2727,11,286,519,11,51556]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17469262295081966,\"compression_ratio\":1.6491228070175439,\"end\":1567.66,\"id\":375,\"no_speech_prob\":0.2117919921875,\"seek\":156766,\"start\":1563.32,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" would be interesting in the future.
So now that we've talked about all things get in version\",\"tokens\":[51556,576,312,1880,294,264,2027,13,407,586,300,321,600,2825,466,439,721,483,294,3037,51776]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1988525390625,\"compression_ratio\":1.6655290102389078,\"end\":1573.52,\"id\":376,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1275634765625,\"seek\":159662,\"start\":1567.66,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" control, you have a new app, a new thing built on top of Git called Git butler, so could you explain\",\"tokens\":[50364,1969,11,291,362,257,777,724,11,257,777,551,3094,322,1192,295,16939,1219,16939,457,1918,11,370,727,291,2903,50656]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1988525390625,\"compression_ratio\":1.6655290102389078,\"end\":1580.16,\"id\":377,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1275634765625,\"seek\":159662,\"start\":1573.52,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" to us what Git butler is and how it makes the Git workflow better?
Yeah, so when I left chat\",\"tokens\":[50656,281,505,437,16939,457,1918,307,293,577,309,1669,264,16939,20993,1101,30,865,11,370,562,286,1411,5081,50988]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1988525390625,\"compression_ratio\":1.6655290102389078,\"end\":1585.5,\"id\":378,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1275634765625,\"seek\":159662,\"start\":1580.16,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" a bug and we were thinking about what to do, I really kind of got into this version control quite\",\"tokens\":[50988,257,7426,293,321,645,1953,466,437,281,360,11,286,534,733,295,658,666,341,3037,1969,1596,51256]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1988525390625,\"compression_ratio\":1.6655290102389078,\"end\":1589.68,\"id\":379,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1275634765625,\"seek\":159662,\"start\":1585.5,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" obviously.
I have a lot of opinions on it.
I'm very interested in it.
You know, my background is\",\"tokens\":[51256,2745,13,286,362,257,688,295,11819,322,309,13,286,478,588,3102,294,309,13,509,458,11,452,3678,307,51464]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1988525390625,\"compression_ratio\":1.6655290102389078,\"end\":1596.62,\"id\":380,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1275634765625,\"seek\":159662,\"start\":1589.68,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" all sort of in GitHub.
And I thought it would be interesting to try to, that if GitHub had decided,\",\"tokens\":[51464,439,1333,295,294,23331,13,400,286,1194,309,576,312,1880,281,853,281,11,300,498,23331,632,3047,11,51820]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.20474137931034483,\"compression_ratio\":1.7884615384615385,\"end\":1598.7,\"id\":381,\"no_speech_prob\":0.043975830078125,\"seek\":162590,\"start\":1596.62,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" that let's write our own version control system, right?\",\"tokens\":[50364,300,718,311,2464,527,1065,3037,1969,1185,11,558,30,50479]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.20474137931034483,\"compression_ratio\":1.7884615384615385,\"end\":1600.82,\"id\":382,\"no_speech_prob\":0.043975830078125,\"seek\":162590,\"start\":1599.04,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" And it was like if we had the 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sphere, right?\",\"tokens\":[50364,492,434,406,456,311,572,29401,309,760,293,1566,718,311,11865,411,321,11684,341,1379,16687,11,558,30,50614]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.16912774725274726,\"compression_ratio\":1.5806451612903225,\"end\":1633,\"id\":395,\"no_speech_prob\":0.038421630859375,\"seek\":164552,\"start\":1631.1,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" And what could be possible there?\",\"tokens\":[50614,400,437,727,312,1944,456,30,50714]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.16912774725274726,\"compression_ratio\":1.5806451612903225,\"end\":1642.62,\"id\":396,\"no_speech_prob\":0.038421630859375,\"seek\":164552,\"start\":1633.04,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" And I found that question really, really interesting of just challenging myself of what preconceptions do I have about version control that are based on Git because I've been using it for 15 years now, 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And just synchronizing it to the cloud somewhere,\",\"tokens\":[50856,439,264,565,11,370,291,1128,3624,1340,11,558,30,400,445,19331,3319,309,281,264,4588,4079,11,51096]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.16023706896551723,\"compression_ratio\":1.7933130699088147,\"end\":1722.08,\"id\":417,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1126708984375,\"seek\":173186,\"start\":1717.04,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" so you can just move over to another computer and turn on the client and you get your working\",\"tokens\":[51096,370,291,393,445,1286,670,281,1071,3820,293,1261,322,264,6423,293,291,483,428,1364,51352]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.16023706896551723,\"compression_ratio\":1.7933130699088147,\"end\":1726.94,\"id\":418,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1126708984375,\"seek\":173186,\"start\":1722.08,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" directory that you had over there, right?
Like, you don't have to commit in order to push something\",\"tokens\":[51352,21120,300,291,632,670,456,11,558,30,1743,11,291,500,380,362,281,5599,294,1668,281,2944,746,51596]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.16023706896551723,\"compression_ratio\":1.7933130699088147,\"end\":1731.86,\"id\":419,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1126708984375,\"seek\":173186,\"start\":1726.94,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" over the wire.
And I found that really, and we built that out and we built a little timeline where\",\"tokens\":[51596,670,264,6234,13,400,286,1352,300,534,11,293,321,3094,300,484,293,321,3094,257,707,12933,689,51840]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.16778273809523808,\"compression_ratio\":1.9328621908127208,\"end\":1736.92,\"id\":420,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0694580078125,\"seek\":176116,\"start\":1731.86,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" you can go back and see what you know what what and we found it it just wasn't very useful right like\",\"tokens\":[50364,291,393,352,646,293,536,437,291,458,437,437,293,321,1352,309,309,445,2067,380,588,4420,558,411,50612]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.16778273809523808,\"compression_ratio\":1.9328621908127208,\"end\":1741.56,\"id\":421,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0694580078125,\"seek\":176116,\"start\":1737.5400000000002,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" like it's useful if you lose work but you lose work what like once a month right and it 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And so what most people do is they'll, they'll just fix it in that branch, right?\",\"tokens\":[50364,439,264,565,13,400,370,437,881,561,360,307,436,603,11,436,603,445,3191,309,294,300,9819,11,558,30,50624]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1439246894409938,\"compression_ratio\":1.9013157894736843,\"end\":1796.46,\"id\":433,\"no_speech_prob\":0.421875,\"seek\":181438,\"start\":1793.32,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" And be like, it'll probably get integrated when this branch get, I'm sure it's fine, right?
Like,\",\"tokens\":[50624,400,312,411,11,309,603,1391,483,10919,562,341,9819,483,11,286,478,988,309,311,2489,11,558,30,1743,11,50804]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1439246894409938,\"compression_ratio\":1.9013157894736843,\"end\":1802.14,\"id\":434,\"no_speech_prob\":0.421875,\"seek\":181438,\"start\":1796.62,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" even though it's, it's orthogonal, you, you put it in, in one context because it's easy.
It's,\",\"tokens\":[50804,754,1673,309,311,11,309,311,41488,11,291,11,291,829,309,294,11,294,472,4319,570,309,311,1858,13,467,311,11,51084]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1439246894409938,\"compression_ratio\":1.9013157894736843,\"end\":1806.32,\"id\":435,\"no_speech_prob\":0.421875,\"seek\":181438,\"start\":1802.26,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" you have to essentially be in one context at a time.
And I was trying to figure out why that was,\",\"tokens\":[51084,291,362,281,4476,312,294,472,4319,412,257,565,13,400,286,390,1382,281,2573,484,983,300,390,11,51288]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1439246894409938,\"compression_ratio\":1.9013157894736843,\"end\":1810.42,\"id\":436,\"no_speech_prob\":0.421875,\"seek\":181438,\"start\":1806.58,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" right?
There's no particular reason, it's only because of the design of, of the index in the head,\",\"tokens\":[51288,558,30,821,311,572,1729,1778,11,309,311,787,570,295,264,1715,295,11,295,264,8186,294,264,1378,11,51488]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1439246894409938,\"compression_ratio\":1.9013157894736843,\"end\":1814.32,\"id\":437,\"no_speech_prob\":0.421875,\"seek\":181438,\"start\":1810.42,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" right?
That, that get can only really be on one branch at a time.
There's no reason that you\",\"tokens\":[51488,558,30,663,11,300,483,393,787,534,312,322,472,9819,412,257,565,13,821,311,572,1778,300,291,51680]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1906658496732026,\"compression_ratio\":1.8305084745762712,\"end\":1816.48,\"id\":438,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0965576171875,\"seek\":184250,\"start\":1814.38,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" couldn't say for every entry in the index,\",\"tokens\":[50364,2809,380,584,337,633,8729,294,264,8186,11,50482]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1906658496732026,\"compression_ratio\":1.8305084745762712,\"end\":1818.74,\"id\":439,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0965576171875,\"seek\":184250,\"start\":1816.78,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" say, this goes to branch A and this goes to branch 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And so that's kind of nice, right?
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And Git actually does\",\"tokens\":[51412,264,589,291,434,884,293,584,11,1392,11,613,721,11,341,307,437,576,1051,13,400,16939,767,775,51648]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.21208639705882354,\"compression_ratio\":1.746031746031746,\"end\":1926.84,\"id\":468,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1007080078125,\"seek\":195052,\"start\":1922.38,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" like if you look at GitMain and say something like Junio will do this or Linux kernel,\",\"tokens\":[50364,411,498,291,574,412,16939,44,491,293,584,746,411,8492,1004,486,360,341,420,18734,28256,11,50600]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.21208639705882354,\"compression_ratio\":1.746031746031746,\"end\":1931.8,\"id\":469,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1007080078125,\"seek\":195052,\"start\":1927.24,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" they'll merge in like 10 branches into one big octopus merge and then try out everything and\",\"tokens\":[50600,436,603,22183,294,411,1266,14770,666,472,955,27962,22183,293,550,853,484,1203,293,50832]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.21208639705882354,\"compression_ratio\":1.746031746031746,\"end\":1935.22,\"id\":470,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1007080078125,\"seek\":195052,\"start\":1931.8,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" then unroll it again because they want to see if they all kind of work together.\",\"tokens\":[50832,550,517,3970,309,797,570,436,528,281,536,498,436,439,733,295,589,1214,13,51004]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.21208639705882354,\"compression_ratio\":1.746031746031746,\"end\":1940.48,\"id\":471,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1007080078125,\"seek\":195052,\"start\":1935.94,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" But it's too much of a pain for most people to do and so most people don't do that even though\",\"tokens\":[51036,583,309,311,886,709,295,257,1822,337,881,561,281,360,293,370,881,561,500,380,360,300,754,1673,51268]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.21208639705882354,\"compression_ratio\":1.746031746031746,\"end\":1945.68,\"id\":472,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1007080078125,\"seek\":195052,\"start\":1940.48,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" Git is fine with that.
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So people tend not to do it but it's totally doable.\",\"tokens\":[51528,300,366,439,670,641,3089,3096,420,2035,13,407,561,3928,406,281,360,309,457,309,311,3879,41183,13,51776]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.20916193181818182,\"compression_ratio\":1.6103286384976525,\"end\":1971.28,\"id\":474,\"no_speech_prob\":0.18212890625,\"seek\":197128,\"start\":1950.52,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" And so yeah, so we made this gooey, I thought it'd be nice to start with a gooey and try to figure out is there a way of, you know, making a drag and drop type thing that can be a very powerful tool for for managing information, but, but every gooey that's been built on Git just does stuff that Git does and just kind of fork execs out stuff.\",\"tokens\":[50364,400,370,1338,11,370,321,1027,341,33192,2030,11,286,1194,309,1116,312,1481,281,722,365,257,33192,2030,293,853,281,2573,484,307,456,257,636,295,11,291,458,11,1455,257,5286,293,3270,2010,551,300,393,312,257,588,4005,2290,337,337,11642,1589,11,457,11,457,633,33192,2030,300,311,668,3094,322,16939,445,775,1507,300,16939,775,293,445,733,295,17716,4454,82,484,1507,13,51414]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1797337278106509,\"compression_ratio\":1.7703488372093024,\"end\":1974.58,\"id\":475,\"no_speech_prob\":0.09259033203125,\"seek\":199994,\"start\":1971.28,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" and so usually it's faster to just write it on the command line if you know what to do, right?\",\"tokens\":[50364,293,370,2673,309,311,4663,281,445,2464,309,322,264,5622,1622,498,291,458,437,281,360,11,558,30,50532]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1797337278106509,\"compression_ratio\":1.7703488372093024,\"end\":1979.56,\"id\":476,\"no_speech_prob\":0.09259033203125,\"seek\":199994,\"start\":1976,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" And so we wanted to be like, is there ways of like, you can't have multiple branches\",\"tokens\":[50600,400,370,321,1415,281,312,411,11,307,456,2098,295,411,11,291,393,380,362,3866,14770,50780]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1797337278106509,\"compression_ratio\":1.7703488372093024,\"end\":1984.26,\"id\":477,\"no_speech_prob\":0.09259033203125,\"seek\":199994,\"start\":1979.56,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" and get, so like simultaneously applied.
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I don't have to list them out and do a number and say, move it to this\",\"tokens\":[51012,5286,257,276,3197,670,11,558,30,286,500,380,362,281,1329,552,484,293,360,257,1230,293,584,11,1286,309,281,341,51196]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1797337278106509,\"compression_ratio\":1.7703488372093024,\"end\":1992.1,\"id\":479,\"no_speech_prob\":0.09259033203125,\"seek\":199994,\"start\":1987.96,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" branch or whatever.
You can just drag stuff.
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So now I'm a Rust developer, which is, you know, I should never be\",\"tokens\":[51420,5681,7386,13,407,586,286,478,257,34952,10754,11,597,307,11,291,458,11,286,820,1128,312,51604]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1797337278106509,\"compression_ratio\":1.7703488372093024,\"end\":1999.94,\"id\":481,\"no_speech_prob\":0.09259033203125,\"seek\":199994,\"start\":1996.6000000000001,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" let anywhere near a systems language, but I do do a lot of Rust work now.\",\"tokens\":[51632,718,4992,2651,257,3652,2856,11,457,286,360,360,257,688,295,34952,589,586,13,51796]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.23145443925233644,\"compression_ratio\":1.607843137254902,\"end\":2006,\"id\":482,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1417236328125,\"seek\":202886,\"start\":2001.16,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" But it's been super, super interesting to build 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Co.\",\"tokens\":[51364,7938,343,6249,1292,293,3066,13,51464]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.13563368055555555,\"compression_ratio\":1.6528662420382165,\"end\":2052.94,\"id\":501,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1708984375,\"seek\":205744,\"start\":2051,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" They're working on this project called Patchwork,\",\"tokens\":[51464,814,434,1364,322,341,1716,1219,44359,1902,11,51564]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.13563368055555555,\"compression_ratio\":1.6528662420382165,\"end\":2055.76,\"id\":502,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1708984375,\"seek\":205744,\"start\":2053.2,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" which is like a universal source control for everything.\",\"tokens\":[51564,597,307,411,257,11455,4009,1969,337,1203,13,51714]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.13563368055555555,\"compression_ratio\":1.6528662420382165,\"end\":2057.44,\"id\":503,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1708984375,\"seek\":205744,\"start\":2055.98,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" They're kind of just trying to figure out 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I'll link that in the show notes\",\"tokens\":[50998,24990,300,436,434,1364,322,337,300,13,286,603,2113,300,294,264,855,5570,51148]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.28500600961538464,\"compression_ratio\":1.7037037037037037,\"end\":2078.52,\"id\":509,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0694580078125,\"seek\":208504,\"start\":2074.34,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" This this idea of virtual branches though when I first saw get Butler\",\"tokens\":[51212,639,341,1558,295,6374,14770,1673,562,286,700,1866,483,27571,51424]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.28500600961538464,\"compression_ratio\":1.7037037037037037,\"end\":2085.04,\"id\":510,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0694580078125,\"seek\":208504,\"start\":2078.52,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" I've seen this this idea of virtual branches and it clicked with me immediately because I actually 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and like too much stuff.
So when I saw\",\"tokens\":[50364,400,754,920,286,917,493,365,11568,82,365,411,886,867,6615,2962,293,411,886,709,1507,13,407,562,286,1866,50732]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.23511318897637795,\"compression_ratio\":1.7065217391304348,\"end\":2148.82,\"id\":529,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0887451171875,\"seek\":216510,\"start\":2144.2,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" Get Butler and like what you're doing.
I was like I get it immediately.
I was like, yes, yes\",\"tokens\":[50742,3240,27571,293,411,437,291,434,884,13,286,390,411,286,483,309,4258,13,286,390,411,11,2086,11,2086,50966]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.23511318897637795,\"compression_ratio\":1.7065217391304348,\"end\":2152.12,\"id\":530,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0887451171875,\"seek\":216510,\"start\":2148.82,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" This is exactly the thing I want.
I was like, I'm just working.
I've got a list of changes\",\"tokens\":[50966,639,307,2293,264,551,286,528,13,286,390,411,11,286,478,445,1364,13,286,600,658,257,1329,295,2962,51136]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.23511318897637795,\"compression_ratio\":1.7065217391304348,\"end\":2156.26,\"id\":531,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0887451171875,\"seek\":216510,\"start\":2152.12,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" Let me like put these in a different branches and then push them up and do different PRs\",\"tokens\":[51136,961,385,411,829,613,294,257,819,14770,293,550,2944,552,493,293,360,819,11568,82,51324]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.23511318897637795,\"compression_ratio\":1.7065217391304348,\"end\":2159.56,\"id\":532,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0887451171875,\"seek\":216510,\"start\":2156.26,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" So I think it's it's a fantastic idea\",\"tokens\":[51324,407,286,519,309,311,309,311,257,5456,1558,51500]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.23511318897637795,\"compression_ratio\":1.7065217391304348,\"end\":2165.1,\"id\":533,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0887451171875,\"seek\":216510,\"start\":2161.12,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" What are some of the challenges that you've had in\",\"tokens\":[51576,708,366,512,295,264,4759,300,291,600,632,294,51758]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.2243679775280899,\"compression_ratio\":1.462686567164179,\"end\":2167.64,\"id\":534,\"no_speech_prob\":0.041412353515625,\"seek\":219054,\"start\":2165.1,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" and integrating these virtual branches so far.\",\"tokens\":[50364,293,26889,613,6374,14770,370,1400,13,50502]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.2243679775280899,\"compression_ratio\":1.462686567164179,\"end\":2171.18,\"id\":535,\"no_speech_prob\":0.041412353515625,\"seek\":219054,\"start\":2167.94,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" Like, what is the big struggles you had with it?\",\"tokens\":[50502,1743,11,437,307,264,955,17592,291,632,365,309,30,50688]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.2243679775280899,\"compression_ratio\":1.462686567164179,\"end\":2177.14,\"id\":536,\"no_speech_prob\":0.041412353515625,\"seek\":219054,\"start\":2171.52,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" Yeah, I mean, the biggest thing is we've had,\",\"tokens\":[50688,865,11,286,914,11,264,3880,551,307,321,600,632,11,50938]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.2243679775280899,\"compression_ratio\":1.462686567164179,\"end\":2181.24,\"id\":537,\"no_speech_prob\":0.041412353515625,\"seek\":219054,\"start\":2177.18,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" I don't know, 15,000 people sign up.\",\"tokens\":[50978,286,500,380,458,11,2119,11,1360,561,1465,493,13,51176]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.2243679775280899,\"compression_ratio\":1.462686567164179,\"end\":2185.02,\"id\":538,\"no_speech_prob\":0.041412353515625,\"seek\":219054,\"start\":2181.36,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" So maybe 20, 25,000 people download and try it out\",\"tokens\":[51176,407,1310,945,11,3552,11,1360,561,5484,293,853,309,484,51370]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.2243679775280899,\"compression_ratio\":1.462686567164179,\"end\":2185.58,\"id\":539,\"no_speech_prob\":0.041412353515625,\"seek\":219054,\"start\":2185.02,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" at some point.\",\"tokens\":[51370,412,512,935,13,51406]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.2243679775280899,\"compression_ratio\":1.462686567164179,\"end\":2190.54,\"id\":540,\"no_speech_prob\":0.041412353515625,\"seek\":219054,\"start\":2186.98,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" And that means that there's like 25,000 different\",\"tokens\":[51458,400,300,1355,300,456,311,411,3552,11,1360,819,51678]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.2077991452991453,\"compression_ratio\":1.681992337164751,\"end\":2197.28,\"id\":541,\"no_speech_prob\":0.100830078125,\"seek\":221408,\"start\":2191.52,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" repository sizes and workflows and edge cases of Git and things like that, that, you know,\",\"tokens\":[50364,25841,11602,293,43461,293,4691,3331,295,16939,293,721,411,300,11,300,11,291,458,11,50714]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.2077991452991453,\"compression_ratio\":1.681992337164751,\"end\":2202.58,\"id\":542,\"no_speech_prob\":0.100830078125,\"seek\":221408,\"start\":2197.4,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" and there's a lot of privacy involved.
We don't want to have access to any of your data that we don't need.\",\"tokens\":[50714,293,456,311,257,688,295,11427,3288,13,492,500,380,528,281,362,2105,281,604,295,428,1412,300,321,500,380,643,13,50964]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.2077991452991453,\"compression_ratio\":1.681992337164751,\"end\":2208.82,\"id\":543,\"no_speech_prob\":0.100830078125,\"seek\":221408,\"start\":2202.66,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" And so we're kind of flying blind a lot of times when people are like, it's slow and it's like, well, there's 10, 100 reasons,\",\"tokens\":[50964,400,370,321,434,733,295,7137,6865,257,688,295,1413,562,561,366,411,11,309,311,2964,293,309,311,411,11,731,11,456,311,1266,11,2319,4112,11,51264]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.2077991452991453,\"compression_ratio\":1.681992337164751,\"end\":2214.08,\"id\":544,\"no_speech_prob\":0.100830078125,\"seek\":221408,\"start\":2209.1,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" 100, there's so many reasons that that could be, right?
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So you could technically go back to any time, anything was flush to\",\"tokens\":[50896,295,437,264,1716,2956,411,13,407,291,727,12120,352,646,281,604,565,11,1340,390,19568,281,51096]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.2070578231292517,\"compression_ratio\":1.8598726114649682,\"end\":2389.26,\"id\":601,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1346435546875,\"seek\":239868,\"start\":2383.36,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" disk, and we could recreate anything since you started watching the project.
And the project still\",\"tokens\":[51096,12355,11,293,321,727,25833,1340,1670,291,1409,1976,264,1716,13,400,264,1716,920,51396]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.2070578231292517,\"compression_ratio\":1.8598726114649682,\"end\":2393.74,\"id\":602,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1346435546875,\"seek\":239868,\"start\":2389.26,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" does that actually.
If you want to, you can kind of go into our docs and find out where the data is,\",\"tokens\":[51396,775,300,767,13,759,291,528,281,11,291,393,733,295,352,666,527,45623,293,915,484,689,264,1412,307,11,51612]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.2070578231292517,\"compression_ratio\":1.8598726114649682,\"end\":2398.22,\"id\":603,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1346435546875,\"seek\":239868,\"start\":2393.8,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" and you can go through and you can find there's documentation on how to recreate any of those files.\",\"tokens\":[51612,293,291,393,352,807,293,291,393,915,456,311,14333,322,577,281,25833,604,295,729,7098,13,51840]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1875,\"compression_ratio\":1.8350877192982455,\"end\":2406.8,\"id\":604,\"no_speech_prob\":0.09381103515625,\"seek\":242336,\"start\":2399,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" But we don't we don't show it in the interface anymore because it was we felt that it was a little bit distracting and we wanted to focus on getting this thing right and we were 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whatever\",\"tokens\":[51438,583,544,382,257,291,458,11,286,528,281,286,528,281,23779,264,5599,300,286,445,630,558,293,445,362,257,1969,1176,420,2035,51840]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1648148148148148,\"compression_ratio\":1.951048951048951,\"end\":2459.78,\"id\":613,\"no_speech_prob\":0.2418212890625,\"seek\":247976,\"start\":2452.84,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" which is hard to, it's actually one of the things that people Google a lot for and get is how do I undo this thing that I did, right?\",\"tokens\":[50364,597,307,1152,281,11,309,311,767,472,295,264,721,300,561,3329,257,688,337,293,483,307,577,360,286,23779,341,551,300,286,630,11,558,30,50714]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1648148148148148,\"compression_ratio\":1.951048951048951,\"end\":2467.42,\"id\":614,\"no_speech_prob\":0.2418212890625,\"seek\":247976,\"start\":2459.92,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" And so just having this very explicit, I can just go back to what everything looked like 10 minutes ago and hit the thing and it's all it's 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right?\",\"tokens\":[51314,1743,286,915,300,588,1880,293,309,311,733,295,1880,300,300,311,611,257,5892,4111,294,3037,1969,3652,307,3037,14905,264,3037,1969,11,558,30,51714]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.16731295620437955,\"compression_ratio\":1.6992753623188406,\"end\":2483.9,\"id\":617,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1558837890625,\"seek\":250780,\"start\":2481.42,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" So I think that's how that's going to look.\",\"tokens\":[50364,407,286,519,300,311,577,300,311,516,281,574,13,50564]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.16731295620437955,\"compression_ratio\":1.6992753623188406,\"end\":2485.76,\"id\":618,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1558837890625,\"seek\":250780,\"start\":2484.16,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" The other thing that we've been working on, like I 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So I mean source control is one of these things like pretty much like any other developer tool where people have a lot of opinions and some people feel very strongly about their opinions.\",\"tokens\":[50664,286,528,281,751,466,411,30015,12867,257,707,857,13,407,286,914,4009,1969,307,472,295,613,721,411,1238,709,411,604,661,10754,2290,689,561,362,257,688,295,11819,293,512,561,841,588,10613,466,641,11819,13,51414]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.22212837837837837,\"compression_ratio\":1.7727272727272727,\"end\":2617.54,\"id\":662,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1439208984375,\"seek\":263930,\"start\":2611.16,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" You know, this is like them versus them versus EMAX kind of like flame wars, uh, you know,\",\"tokens\":[50364,509,458,11,341,307,411,552,5717,552,5717,462,9998,55,733,295,411,13287,13718,11,2232,11,291,458,11,50684]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.22212837837837837,\"compression_ratio\":1.7727272727272727,\"end\":2620.8,\"id\":663,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1439208984375,\"seek\":263930,\"start\":2617.56,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" they're definitely going to be people on teams that are not going to want to adopt your tool.\",\"tokens\":[50684,436,434,2138,516,281,312,561,322,5491,300,366,406,516,281,528,281,6878,428,2290,13,50852]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.22212837837837837,\"compression_ratio\":1.7727272727272727,\"end\":2624.14,\"id\":664,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1439208984375,\"seek\":263930,\"start\":2620.96,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" Like even if you get like a lot of people in that team, we're like, yeah, we like to use\",\"tokens\":[50852,1743,754,498,291,483,411,257,688,295,561,294,300,1469,11,321,434,411,11,1338,11,321,411,281,764,51008]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.22212837837837837,\"compression_ratio\":1.7727272727272727,\"end\":2627.2,\"id\":665,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1439208984375,\"seek\":263930,\"start\":2624.14,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" Git Butler.
We're all using it and they're going to be some people like, no, I will not.\",\"tokens\":[51008,16939,27571,13,492,434,439,1228,309,293,436,434,516,281,312,512,561,411,11,572,11,286,486,406,13,51176]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.22212837837837837,\"compression_ratio\":1.7727272727272727,\"end\":2634.22,\"id\":666,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1439208984375,\"seek\":263930,\"start\":2627.42,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" You will pry the Git CLI from my cold dead hands.
How do you, uh, ensure that like teams can\",\"tokens\":[51176,509,486,41902,264,16939,12855,40,490,452,3554,3116,2377,13,1012,360,291,11,2232,11,5586,300,411,5491,393,51520]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.22212837837837837,\"compression_ratio\":1.7727272727272727,\"end\":2639.3,\"id\":667,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1439208984375,\"seek\":263930,\"start\":2634.22,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" continue to work together?
Like does it still integrate with GitHub?
Like how how does the\",\"tokens\":[51520,2354,281,589,1214,30,1743,775,309,920,13365,365,23331,30,1743,577,577,775,264,51780]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.21296296296296297,\"compression_ratio\":1.7868852459016393,\"end\":2641.16,\"id\":668,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0645751953125,\"seek\":266910,\"start\":2639.3,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" the overall team workflow happens\",\"tokens\":[50364,264,4787,1469,20993,2314,50466]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.21296296296296297,\"compression_ratio\":1.7868852459016393,\"end\":2642.88,\"id\":669,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0645751953125,\"seek\":266910,\"start\":2641.16,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" when some people use it and some people don't.\",\"tokens\":[50466,562,512,561,764,309,293,512,561,500,380,13,50574]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.21296296296296297,\"compression_ratio\":1.7868852459016393,\"end\":2645.2,\"id\":670,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0645751953125,\"seek\":266910,\"start\":2643.26,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" Yeah, I mean, it's a great 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right?\",\"tokens\":[50802,415,1409,257,6374,1185,490,8459,11,558,30,50982]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.21296296296296297,\"compression_ratio\":1.7868852459016393,\"end\":2653.14,\"id\":674,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0645751953125,\"seek\":266910,\"start\":2651.68,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" And I think the reason that that didn't work\",\"tokens\":[50982,400,286,519,264,1778,300,300,994,380,589,51060]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.21296296296296297,\"compression_ratio\":1.7868852459016393,\"end\":2653.9,\"id\":675,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0645751953125,\"seek\":266910,\"start\":2653.14,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" is this problem.\",\"tokens\":[51060,307,341,1154,13,51102]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.21296296296296297,\"compression_ratio\":1.7868852459016393,\"end\":2655.36,\"id\":676,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0645751953125,\"seek\":266910,\"start\":2654,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" And I actually get about this problem 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Like people have, it's not common, right?
I mean, it's common,\",\"tokens\":[51116,411,22183,19807,11,558,30,1743,561,362,11,309,311,406,2689,11,558,30,286,914,11,309,311,2689,11,51400]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.26672979797979796,\"compression_ratio\":1.7511737089201878,\"end\":2745.14,\"id\":705,\"no_speech_prob\":0.2763671875,\"seek\":274514,\"start\":2739.26,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" but it's not what do you get merge conflicts once a week, once a month.
Like once a day, maybe,\",\"tokens\":[51400,457,309,311,406,437,360,291,483,22183,19807,1564,257,1243,11,1564,257,1618,13,1743,1564,257,786,11,1310,11,51704]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.2447076612903226,\"compression_ratio\":1.9125874125874125,\"end\":2752.24,\"id\":706,\"no_speech_prob\":0.227783203125,\"seek\":277090,\"start\":2745.14,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" Like, if you're really on a busy team that's hitting the same files a lot, and a lot of times they're they're simple sometimes they're you know\",\"tokens\":[50364,1743,11,498,291,434,534,322,257,5856,1469,300,311,8850,264,912,7098,257,688,11,293,257,688,295,1413,436,434,436,434,2199,2171,436,434,291,458,50718]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.2447076612903226,\"compression_ratio\":1.9125874125874125,\"end\":2757.62,\"id\":707,\"no_speech_prob\":0.227783203125,\"seek\":277090,\"start\":2752.24,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" If you're working on you're if you have if you merge a lot then then they tend to be less if you're working on a feature branch for\",\"tokens\":[50718,759,291,434,1364,322,291,434,498,291,362,498,291,22183,257,688,550,550,436,3928,281,312,1570,498,291,434,1364,322,257,4111,9819,337,50990]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.2447076612903226,\"compression_ratio\":1.9125874125874125,\"end\":2760.88,\"id\":708,\"no_speech_prob\":0.227783203125,\"seek\":277090,\"start\":2757.62,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" A month right then you're gonna conflict all over the place\",\"tokens\":[51010,316,1618,558,550,291,434,799,6596,439,670,264,1081,51152]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.2447076612903226,\"compression_ratio\":1.9125874125874125,\"end\":2766.48,\"id\":709,\"no_speech_prob\":0.227783203125,\"seek\":277090,\"start\":2760.88,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" But but what's interesting about merge conflicts is in a team dynamic like it centralized version control systems\",\"tokens\":[51152,583,457,437,311,1880,466,22183,19807,307,294,257,1469,8546,411,309,32395,3037,1969,3652,51434]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.2447076612903226,\"compression_ratio\":1.9125874125874125,\"end\":2770.9,\"id\":710,\"no_speech_prob\":0.227783203125,\"seek\":277090,\"start\":2766.48,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" You don't really have them right because things lock but in decentralized version control systems\",\"tokens\":[51434,509,500,380,534,362,552,558,570,721,4017,457,294,32870,3037,1969,3652,51656]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.14678996598639457,\"compression_ratio\":1.803125,\"end\":2775.64,\"id\":711,\"no_speech_prob\":0.259033203125,\"seek\":279970,\"start\":2770.9,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" that's one of the disadvantages, but you have the advantage of just being able to have this nice\",\"tokens\":[50364,300,311,472,295,264,37431,11,457,291,362,264,5002,295,445,885,1075,281,362,341,1481,50608]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.14678996598639457,\"compression_ratio\":1.803125,\"end\":2782.46,\"id\":712,\"no_speech_prob\":0.259033203125,\"seek\":279970,\"start\":2775.64,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" clean context.
But when you do, it's so interesting to me because it's always, there's no communication,\",\"tokens\":[50608,2541,4319,13,583,562,291,360,11,309,311,370,1880,281,385,570,309,311,1009,11,456,311,572,6101,11,50944]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.14678996598639457,\"compression_ratio\":1.803125,\"end\":2787.28,\"id\":713,\"no_speech_prob\":0.259033203125,\"seek\":279970,\"start\":2782.72,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" right?
They're very decentralized.
Like, even on GitHub, the branches don't know about each other.\",\"tokens\":[50944,558,30,814,434,588,32870,13,1743,11,754,322,23331,11,264,14770,500,380,458,466,1184,661,13,51180]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.14678996598639457,\"compression_ratio\":1.803125,\"end\":2791.94,\"id\":714,\"no_speech_prob\":0.259033203125,\"seek\":279970,\"start\":2787.42,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" The PRs don't know about each other.
Like, you can't, you could kind of test them all and say,\",\"tokens\":[51180,440,11568,82,500,380,458,466,1184,661,13,1743,11,291,393,380,11,291,727,733,295,1500,552,439,293,584,11,51412]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.14678996598639457,\"compression_ratio\":1.803125,\"end\":2795.68,\"id\":715,\"no_speech_prob\":0.259033203125,\"seek\":279970,\"start\":2791.94,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" this branch actually, you know, wants to merge at some point and this branch wants them,\",\"tokens\":[51412,341,9819,767,11,291,458,11,2738,281,22183,412,512,935,293,341,9819,2738,552,11,51600]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.14678996598639457,\"compression_ratio\":1.803125,\"end\":2799.7,\"id\":716,\"no_speech_prob\":0.259033203125,\"seek\":279970,\"start\":2795.68,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" but they conflict with each other.
So this is going to be a race condition now, right?
Like,\",\"tokens\":[51600,457,436,6596,365,1184,661,13,407,341,307,516,281,312,257,4569,4188,586,11,558,30,1743,11,51800]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1725206611570248,\"compression_ratio\":1.697508896797153,\"end\":2805.72,\"id\":717,\"no_speech_prob\":0.03900146484375,\"seek\":282788,\"start\":2799.7,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" like whichever one and the weird part is whichever one hits the merge button first wins, right?\",\"tokens\":[50364,411,24123,472,293,264,3657,644,307,24123,472,8664,264,22183,2960,700,10641,11,558,30,50668]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1725206611570248,\"compression_ratio\":1.697508896797153,\"end\":2812.24,\"id\":718,\"no_speech_prob\":0.03900146484375,\"seek\":282788,\"start\":2806.08,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" Like 100%, they have 0% of the work and the second person they hit that button has 100% of\",\"tokens\":[50668,1743,2319,8923,436,362,1958,4,295,264,589,293,264,1150,954,436,2045,300,2960,575,2319,4,295,50992]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1725206611570248,\"compression_ratio\":1.697508896797153,\"end\":2816.8,\"id\":719,\"no_speech_prob\":0.03900146484375,\"seek\":282788,\"start\":2812.24,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" the integration work.
There's no, there's no way of solving that and so one of the things I really\",\"tokens\":[50992,264,10980,589,13,821,311,572,11,456,311,572,636,295,12606,300,293,370,472,295,264,721,286,534,51220]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1725206611570248,\"compression_ratio\":1.697508896797153,\"end\":2823.92,\"id\":720,\"no_speech_prob\":0.03900146484375,\"seek\":282788,\"start\":2816.8,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" want to tackle at some point is having this, you know, if you're using GitBuller that the clients\",\"tokens\":[51220,528,281,14896,412,512,935,307,1419,341,11,291,458,11,498,291,434,1228,16939,33,858,260,300,264,6982,51576]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1725206611570248,\"compression_ratio\":1.697508896797153,\"end\":2827.88,\"id\":721,\"no_speech_prob\":0.03900146484375,\"seek\":282788,\"start\":2823.92,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" can communicate with each other, right?
And start saying, hey, this branch you're working on,\",\"tokens\":[51576,393,7890,365,1184,661,11,558,30,400,722,1566,11,4177,11,341,9819,291,434,1364,322,11,51772]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.20603813559322035,\"compression_ratio\":1.6608996539792387,\"end\":2832.34,\"id\":722,\"no_speech_prob\":0.030181884765625,\"seek\":285308,\"start\":2827.88,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" And this doesn't merge cleanly with this other person's work in progress.\",\"tokens\":[50364,400,341,1177,380,22183,2541,356,365,341,661,954,311,589,294,4205,13,50594]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.20603813559322035,\"compression_ratio\":1.6608996539792387,\"end\":2836.3,\"id\":723,\"no_speech_prob\":0.030181884765625,\"seek\":285308,\"start\":2832.46,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" Neither of you have committed anything, but I can see already that you're working 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whatever,\",\"tokens\":[50364,281,360,264,22183,293,536,264,551,293,550,733,295,6408,309,294,37211,420,2035,11,50528]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1490185950413223,\"compression_ratio\":1.6875,\"end\":2889.8,\"id\":741,\"no_speech_prob\":0.162109375,\"seek\":290652,\"start\":2886.22,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" like how do you even talk about merge conflicts with somebody, right?
So there's tons of stuff\",\"tokens\":[50528,411,577,360,291,754,751,466,22183,19807,365,2618,11,558,30,407,456,311,9131,295,1507,50712]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1490185950413223,\"compression_ratio\":1.6875,\"end\":2895.92,\"id\":742,\"no_speech_prob\":0.162109375,\"seek\":290652,\"start\":2889.8,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" like that that I think that there's a lot of room for improvement in how we work together\",\"tokens\":[50712,411,300,300,286,519,300,456,311,257,688,295,1808,337,10444,294,577,321,589,1214,51020]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1490185950413223,\"compression_ratio\":1.6875,\"end\":2898.98,\"id\":743,\"no_speech_prob\":0.162109375,\"seek\":290652,\"start\":2895.92,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" on source code and just really hasn't been addressed a lot.\",\"tokens\":[51020,322,4009,3089,293,445,534,6132,380,668,13847,257,688,13,51192]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1490185950413223,\"compression_ratio\":1.6875,\"end\":2903.8,\"id\":744,\"no_speech_prob\":0.162109375,\"seek\":290652,\"start\":2899.36,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" So we live in an age of AI.
Do you think AI will help with merge conflicts in the future?\",\"tokens\":[51192,407,321,1621,294,364,3205,295,7318,13,1144,291,519,7318,486,854,365,22183,19807,294,264,2027,30,51416]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1490185950413223,\"compression_ratio\":1.6875,\"end\":2906.52,\"id\":745,\"no_speech_prob\":0.162109375,\"seek\":290652,\"start\":2903.8,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" I see that you've been sprinkling like AI throughout the product.\",\"tokens\":[51416,286,536,300,291,600,668,30885,1688,411,7318,3710,264,1674,13,51572]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.20872395833333332,\"compression_ratio\":1.5,\"end\":2923.18,\"id\":746,\"no_speech_prob\":0.358642578125,\"seek\":292318,\"start\":2906.52,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" Yeah, I mean AI is so interesting right like I'm curious what you guys find AI useful for I find it useful for a lot of stuff like I but very specific things like I don't I have a hard time imagining in the near future that I'm going to have a\",\"tokens\":[50364,865,11,286,914,7318,307,370,1880,558,411,286,478,6369,437,291,1074,915,7318,4420,337,286,915,309,4420,337,257,688,295,1507,411,286,457,588,2685,721,411,286,500,380,286,362,257,1152,565,27798,294,264,2651,2027,300,286,478,516,281,362,257,51214]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.24867021276595744,\"compression_ratio\":1.7655172413793103,\"end\":2927.08,\"id\":747,\"no_speech_prob\":0.239013671875,\"seek\":294970,\"start\":2923.18,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" pull request description, and then some AI is going to solve it for me, right?\",\"tokens\":[50364,2235,5308,3855,11,293,550,512,7318,307,516,281,5039,309,337,385,11,558,30,50566]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.24867021276595744,\"compression_ratio\":1.7655172413793103,\"end\":2931.4,\"id\":748,\"no_speech_prob\":0.239013671875,\"seek\":294970,\"start\":2927.3,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" And be like, here's the changes to the 10 files that need to be changed in\",\"tokens\":[50566,400,312,411,11,510,311,264,2962,281,264,1266,7098,300,643,281,312,3105,294,50776]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.24867021276595744,\"compression_ratio\":1.7655172413793103,\"end\":2933.92,\"id\":749,\"no_speech_prob\":0.239013671875,\"seek\":294970,\"start\":2931.4,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" order for this to work the way that you want it to, maybe.\",\"tokens\":[50776,1668,337,341,281,589,264,636,300,291,528,309,281,11,1310,13,50910]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.24867021276595744,\"compression_ratio\":1.7655172413793103,\"end\":2935.88,\"id\":750,\"no_speech_prob\":0.239013671875,\"seek\":294970,\"start\":2934.16,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" But like I haven't seen anything close to that, right?\",\"tokens\":[50910,583,411,286,2378,380,1612,1340,1998,281,300,11,558,30,51004]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.24867021276595744,\"compression_ratio\":1.7655172413793103,\"end\":2939.9,\"id\":751,\"no_speech_prob\":0.239013671875,\"seek\":294970,\"start\":2935.98,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" Like I have a hard time getting it to write a section of a function,\",\"tokens\":[51004,1743,286,362,257,1152,565,1242,309,281,2464,257,3541,295,257,2445,11,51212]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.24867021276595744,\"compression_ratio\":1.7655172413793103,\"end\":2942.48,\"id\":752,\"no_speech_prob\":0.239013671875,\"seek\":294970,\"start\":2940.24,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" like really the way that I want it to, right?\",\"tokens\":[51212,411,534,264,636,300,286,528,309,281,11,558,30,51338]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.24867021276595744,\"compression_ratio\":1.7655172413793103,\"end\":2946.42,\"id\":753,\"no_speech_prob\":0.239013671875,\"seek\":294970,\"start\":2944.0399999999995,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" But, but, you know, working in Rust for the first time,\",\"tokens\":[51398,583,11,457,11,291,458,11,1364,294,34952,337,264,700,565,11,51528]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.24867021276595744,\"compression_ratio\":1.7655172413793103,\"end\":2949.7,\"id\":754,\"no_speech_prob\":0.239013671875,\"seek\":294970,\"start\":2946.44,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" it's actually super helpful of being able to write a comment and be like,\",\"tokens\":[51528,309,311,767,1687,4961,295,885,1075,281,2464,257,2871,293,312,411,11,51700]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.19057765151515152,\"compression_ratio\":1.7056737588652482,\"end\":2956.54,\"id\":755,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1822509765625,\"seek\":297396,\"start\":2949.7,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" I have this, you know, sort of HashMap, and I need to turn it into like a vector of, you know,\",\"tokens\":[50364,286,362,341,11,291,458,11,1333,295,30775,44,569,11,293,286,643,281,1261,309,666,411,257,8062,295,11,291,458,11,50708]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.19057765151515152,\"compression_ratio\":1.7056737588652482,\"end\":2961.46,\"id\":756,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1822509765625,\"seek\":297396,\"start\":2956.74,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" strings that are formatted in this specific way.
Like, I know there's fold and map and shit in\",\"tokens\":[50708,13985,300,366,1254,32509,294,341,2685,636,13,1743,11,286,458,456,311,4860,293,4471,293,4611,294,50952]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.19057765151515152,\"compression_ratio\":1.7056737588652482,\"end\":2965.92,\"id\":757,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1822509765625,\"seek\":297396,\"start\":2961.46,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" here somewhere, but like, and then, you know, AI will kind of come in and be like, like this,\",\"tokens\":[50952,510,4079,11,457,411,11,293,550,11,291,458,11,7318,486,733,295,808,294,293,312,411,11,411,341,11,51180]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.19057765151515152,\"compression_ratio\":1.7056737588652482,\"end\":2969.5,\"id\":758,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1822509765625,\"seek\":297396,\"start\":2966.1,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" and it's like, yeah, pretty close, right?
And you just kind of see what the compile errors aren't\",\"tokens\":[51180,293,309,311,411,11,1338,11,1238,1998,11,558,30,400,291,445,733,295,536,437,264,31413,13603,3212,380,51356]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.19057765151515152,\"compression_ratio\":1.7056737588652482,\"end\":2973.96,\"id\":759,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1822509765625,\"seek\":297396,\"start\":2969.5,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" fixed one or two things.
But like, like, I find it useful for almost a replacement of documentation\",\"tokens\":[51356,6806,472,420,732,721,13,583,411,11,411,11,286,915,309,4420,337,1920,257,14419,295,14333,51588]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.21061197916666666,\"compression_ratio\":1.8778280542986425,\"end\":2983.92,\"id\":760,\"no_speech_prob\":0.41064453125,\"seek\":299618,\"start\":2975.12,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" And so we're using it for that if you don't because this happens a lot right you you don't as part of it is because you have to write your commit message at the end.\",\"tokens\":[50364,400,370,321,434,1228,309,337,300,498,291,500,380,570,341,2314,257,688,558,291,291,500,380,382,644,295,309,307,570,291,362,281,2464,428,5599,3636,412,264,917,13,50864]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.21061197916666666,\"compression_ratio\":1.8778280542986425,\"end\":2996.18,\"id\":761,\"no_speech_prob\":0.41064453125,\"seek\":299618,\"start\":2984.18,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" But a lot of people don't like writing useful 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It's this description for it.
So, um, so I, I, you know, we're sprinkling it in to answer\",\"tokens\":[50568,797,13,467,311,341,3855,337,309,13,407,11,1105,11,370,286,11,286,11,291,458,11,321,434,30885,1688,309,294,281,1867,50892]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.18140243902439024,\"compression_ratio\":1.6689895470383276,\"end\":3065.78,\"id\":782,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0240478515625,\"seek\":307642,\"start\":3058.98,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" your original question.
I think that AI tooling could be incredibly useful for certain types of\",\"tokens\":[50892,428,3380,1168,13,286,519,300,7318,46593,727,312,6252,4420,337,1629,3467,295,51228]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.18140243902439024,\"compression_ratio\":1.6689895470383276,\"end\":3071.58,\"id\":783,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0240478515625,\"seek\":307642,\"start\":3065.78,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" merge conflicts.
Um, you can use them right now for I've been doing some experience with this\",\"tokens\":[51228,22183,19807,13,3301,11,291,393,764,552,558,586,337,286,600,668,884,512,1752,365,341,51520]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.18140243902439024,\"compression_ratio\":1.6689895470383276,\"end\":3076.42,\"id\":784,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0240478515625,\"seek\":307642,\"start\":3071.58,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" of just sending merge conflicts to open AI or to anthropic or whatever and saying how would you\",\"tokens\":[51520,295,445,7750,22183,19807,281,1269,7318,420,281,22727,299,420,2035,293,1566,577,576,291,51760]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.24512411347517732,\"compression_ratio\":1.7857142857142858,\"end\":3082.1,\"id\":785,\"no_speech_prob\":0.04205322265625,\"seek\":310468,\"start\":3076.42,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" solve this, right?
And it can do it sometimes, some types of, like, especially, you know,\",\"tokens\":[50364,5039,341,11,558,30,400,309,393,360,309,2171,11,512,3467,295,11,411,11,2318,11,291,458,11,50656]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.24512411347517732,\"compression_ratio\":1.7857142857142858,\"end\":3086.42,\"id\":786,\"no_speech_prob\":0.04205322265625,\"seek\":310468,\"start\":3082.18,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" you add one class into tailwind, you know, described, like, it's in the middle of the\",\"tokens\":[50656,291,909,472,1508,666,6838,12199,11,291,458,11,7619,11,411,11,309,311,294,264,2808,295,264,50864]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.24512411347517732,\"compression_ratio\":1.7857142857142858,\"end\":3089.28,\"id\":787,\"no_speech_prob\":0.04205322265625,\"seek\":310468,\"start\":3086.42,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" thing or whatever.
And you're like, where it even is, like, you have to go into word\",\"tokens\":[50864,551,420,2035,13,400,291,434,411,11,689,309,754,307,11,411,11,291,362,281,352,666,1349,51010]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.24512411347517732,\"compression_ratio\":1.7857142857142858,\"end\":3095.78,\"id\":788,\"no_speech_prob\":0.04205322265625,\"seek\":310468,\"start\":3089.28,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" diff or whatever to see what happened here and there.
AI tools or LLMs are quite good\",\"tokens\":[51010,7593,420,2035,281,536,437,2011,510,293,456,13,7318,3873,420,441,43,26386,366,1596,665,51336]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.24512411347517732,\"compression_ratio\":1.7857142857142858,\"end\":3100.26,\"id\":789,\"no_speech_prob\":0.04205322265625,\"seek\":310468,\"start\":3095.78,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" at being like, this is clearly what happened and now how to merge it together.
What I'm\",\"tokens\":[51336,412,885,411,11,341,307,4448,437,2011,293,586,577,281,22183,309,1214,13,708,286,478,51562]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.24512411347517732,\"compression_ratio\":1.7857142857142858,\"end\":3104.68,\"id\":790,\"no_speech_prob\":0.04205322265625,\"seek\":310468,\"start\":3100.26,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" kind of interested in is something like GitHub's data set where, you know, they have, they\",\"tokens\":[51562,733,295,3102,294,307,746,411,23331,311,1412,992,689,11,291,458,11,436,362,11,436,51782]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.22682291666666668,\"compression_ratio\":1.6153846153846154,\"end\":3120.12,\"id\":791,\"no_speech_prob\":0.057373046875,\"seek\":312012,\"start\":3104.68,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" And if you look at Git, any merge conflict that's ever happened in any project, in the history of Git, you can recreate, right, because the parents have you have the original parents and you can run it through the same algorithm that they would have originally run through.\",\"tokens\":[50364,400,498,291,574,412,16939,11,604,22183,6596,300,311,1562,2011,294,604,1716,11,294,264,2503,295,16939,11,291,393,25833,11,558,11,570,264,3152,362,291,362,264,3380,3152,293,291,393,1190,309,807,264,912,9284,300,436,576,362,7993,1190,807,13,51164]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.2815366972477064,\"compression_ratio\":1.7740740740740741,\"end\":3125.98,\"id\":792,\"no_speech_prob\":0.052520751953125,\"seek\":314774,\"start\":3120.12,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" And so this is almost certainly what the merge conflict look like, and you have the resolution in the merge parent, right?\",\"tokens\":[50364,400,370,341,307,1920,3297,437,264,22183,6596,574,411,11,293,291,362,264,8669,294,264,22183,2596,11,558,30,50658]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.2815366972477064,\"compression_ratio\":1.7740740740740741,\"end\":3131.3,\"id\":793,\"no_speech_prob\":0.052520751953125,\"seek\":314774,\"start\":3126.46,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" And so we're in the merge object itself.
And so like you there's a database of\",\"tokens\":[50658,400,370,321,434,294,264,22183,2657,2564,13,400,370,411,291,456,311,257,8149,295,50904]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.2815366972477064,\"compression_ratio\":1.7740740740740741,\"end\":3137.04,\"id\":794,\"no_speech_prob\":0.052520751953125,\"seek\":314774,\"start\":3132.72,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" Hundreds of millions of merge conflicts and what the resolutions are in every possible language, right?\",\"tokens\":[50994,45785,295,6803,295,22183,19807,293,437,264,32179,366,294,633,1944,2856,11,558,30,51210]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.2815366972477064,\"compression_ratio\":1.7740740740740741,\"end\":3143.5,\"id\":795,\"no_speech_prob\":0.052520751953125,\"seek\":314774,\"start\":3137.14,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" That are all open source.
And so I think training something specifically like a small model to do just that\",\"tokens\":[51210,663,366,439,1269,4009,13,400,370,286,519,3097,746,4682,411,257,1359,2316,281,360,445,300,51528]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.2815366972477064,\"compression_ratio\":1.7740740740740741,\"end\":3147.74,\"id\":796,\"no_speech_prob\":0.052520751953125,\"seek\":314774,\"start\":3144.06,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" Could be incredibly powerful, right?
It could be a very very good\",\"tokens\":[51560,7497,312,6252,4005,11,558,30,467,727,312,257,588,588,665,51746]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.2516163793103448,\"compression_ratio\":1.6901960784313725,\"end\":3151.2,\"id\":797,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1292724609375,\"seek\":317456,\"start\":3148.36,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" a sort of specific model, not instead of a general model,\",\"tokens\":[50364,257,1333,295,2685,2316,11,406,2602,295,257,2674,2316,11,50543]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.2516163793103448,\"compression_ratio\":1.6901960784313725,\"end\":3154.7,\"id\":798,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1292724609375,\"seek\":317456,\"start\":3151.4,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" but I haven't, I don't really have the resources\",\"tokens\":[50543,457,286,2378,380,11,286,500,380,534,362,264,3593,50723]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.2516163793103448,\"compression_ratio\":1.6901960784313725,\"end\":3159.08,\"id\":799,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1292724609375,\"seek\":317456,\"start\":3154.7,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" to do that 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less\",\"tokens\":[51254,1970,257,1337,1166,7318,293,1570,51376]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.23637218045112782,\"compression_ratio\":1.6942446043165467,\"end\":3223.54,\"id\":818,\"no_speech_prob\":0.029296875,\"seek\":323150,\"start\":3222.48,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" it's for like summarization.\",\"tokens\":[51376,309,311,337,411,14611,2144,13,51444]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.23637218045112782,\"compression_ratio\":1.6942446043165467,\"end\":3226.06,\"id\":819,\"no_speech_prob\":0.029296875,\"seek\":323150,\"start\":3223.94,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" And I think the summarization use case, especially\",\"tokens\":[51444,400,286,519,264,14611,2144,764,1389,11,2318,51556]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.23637218045112782,\"compression_ratio\":1.6942446043165467,\"end\":3228.04,\"id\":820,\"no_speech_prob\":0.029296875,\"seek\":323150,\"start\":3226.06,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" with Git Butler, I think is actually really 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But I know how to explain\",\"tokens\":[50620,1261,309,666,257,4295,300,286,11,291,458,11,300,286,528,281,11,300,286,528,281,764,13,583,286,458,577,281,2903,50816]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17059748427672955,\"compression_ratio\":1.912621359223301,\"end\":3317.88,\"id\":845,\"no_speech_prob\":0.164306640625,\"seek\":333172,\"start\":3314.04,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" that, right?
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And it's like, no problem.
And\",\"tokens\":[51008,411,11,291,458,11,1319,341,2519,281,6608,309,666,341,11,2035,13,400,309,311,411,11,572,1154,13,400,51248]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17059748427672955,\"compression_ratio\":1.912621359223301,\"end\":3327.58,\"id\":847,\"no_speech_prob\":0.164306640625,\"seek\":333172,\"start\":3322.56,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" it works, right?
Like hundreds, like almost a hundred percent of the time.
It is mind blowing.\",\"tokens\":[51248,309,1985,11,558,30,1743,6779,11,411,1920,257,3262,3043,295,264,565,13,467,307,1575,15068,13,51492]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17059748427672955,\"compression_ratio\":1.912621359223301,\"end\":3331.72,\"id\":848,\"no_speech_prob\":0.164306640625,\"seek\":333172,\"start\":3327.78,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" How much time I've saved trying to go through pandas documentation to figure out how to do something\",\"tokens\":[51492,1012,709,565,286,600,6624,1382,281,352,807,4565,296,14333,281,2573,484,577,281,360,746,51700]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.19950929752066116,\"compression_ratio\":1.718978102189781,\"end\":3337.28,\"id\":849,\"no_speech_prob\":0.30029296875,\"seek\":335798,\"start\":3331.72,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" specific writer find some examples or write some SQL for me sometimes.
So I'm relatively good at\",\"tokens\":[50364,2685,9936,915,512,5110,420,2464,512,19200,337,385,2171,13,407,286,478,7226,665,412,50640]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.19950929752066116,\"compression_ratio\":1.718978102189781,\"end\":3342.3,\"id\":850,\"no_speech_prob\":0.30029296875,\"seek\":335798,\"start\":3337.28,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" SQL.
I'm old enough that I actually had to write a lot of stuff directly in SQL and not Errol or\",\"tokens\":[50640,19200,13,286,478,1331,1547,300,286,767,632,281,2464,257,688,295,1507,3838,294,19200,293,406,3300,6623,420,50892]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.19950929752066116,\"compression_ratio\":1.718978102189781,\"end\":3348.5,\"id\":851,\"no_speech_prob\":0.30029296875,\"seek\":335798,\"start\":3342.3,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" whatever in my early days.
And so I can do a lot of a lot of SQL stuff.
But even then there's some\",\"tokens\":[50892,2035,294,452,2440,1708,13,400,370,286,393,360,257,688,295,257,688,295,19200,1507,13,583,754,550,456,311,512,51200]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.19950929752066116,\"compression_ratio\":1.718978102189781,\"end\":3354.3,\"id\":852,\"no_speech_prob\":0.30029296875,\"seek\":335798,\"start\":3349.56,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" there's some some difficult things to kind of wrap your head around.
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So because I want to edit it\",\"tokens\":[51088,708,307,264,1657,295,341,295,341,2445,558,30,407,570,286,528,281,8129,309,51271]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.21958892617449666,\"compression_ratio\":1.9088145896656534,\"end\":3562.88,\"id\":917,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1707763671875,\"seek\":356882,\"start\":3557.68,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" And I don't know why it doesn't work the way that that we want or I don't want to not break something right like was there\",\"tokens\":[51271,400,286,500,380,458,983,309,1177,380,589,264,636,300,300,321,528,420,286,500,380,528,281,406,1821,746,558,411,390,456,51532]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.21958892617449666,\"compression_ratio\":1.9088145896656534,\"end\":3568.82,\"id\":918,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1707763671875,\"seek\":356882,\"start\":3562.88,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" Sentry stuff involved in the last time this was you know edited or whatever.
I don't know like like it's interesting to think about\",\"tokens\":[51532,23652,627,1507,3288,294,264,1036,565,341,390,291,458,23016,420,2035,13,286,500,380,458,411,411,309,311,1880,281,519,466,51828]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.18559966216216217,\"compression_ratio\":1.9295774647887325,\"end\":3572.06,\"id\":919,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0203094482421875,\"seek\":359724,\"start\":3568.82,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" about what we use some of our version of tools to answer,\",\"tokens\":[50364,466,437,321,764,512,295,527,3037,295,3873,281,1867,11,50552]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.18559966216216217,\"compression_ratio\":1.9295774647887325,\"end\":3574.14,\"id\":920,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0203094482421875,\"seek\":359724,\"start\":3572.36,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" and if they're actually good at answering those questions,\",\"tokens\":[50552,293,498,436,434,767,665,412,13430,729,1651,11,50642]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.18559966216216217,\"compression_ratio\":1.9295774647887325,\"end\":3576.58,\"id\":921,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0203094482421875,\"seek\":359724,\"start\":3574.44,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" or if they're the only tool we have to answer those questions,\",\"tokens\":[50642,420,498,436,434,264,787,2290,321,362,281,1867,729,1651,11,50762]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.18559966216216217,\"compression_ratio\":1.9295774647887325,\"end\":3578.42,\"id\":922,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0203094482421875,\"seek\":359724,\"start\":3576.72,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" and so we're fine with whatever we're given, right?\",\"tokens\":[50762,293,370,321,434,2489,365,2035,321,434,2212,11,558,30,50894]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.18559966216216217,\"compression_ratio\":1.9295774647887325,\"end\":3580.96,\"id\":923,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0203094482421875,\"seek\":359724,\"start\":3579.3,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" But I think AI could be really good at that,\",\"tokens\":[50894,583,286,519,7318,727,312,534,665,412,300,11,50978]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.18559966216216217,\"compression_ratio\":1.9295774647887325,\"end\":3583.34,\"id\":924,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0203094482421875,\"seek\":359724,\"start\":3581.22,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" of being able to do these more free form questions\",\"tokens\":[50978,295,885,1075,281,360,613,544,1737,1254,1651,51098]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.18559966216216217,\"compression_ratio\":1.9295774647887325,\"end\":3585.06,\"id\":925,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0203094482421875,\"seek\":359724,\"start\":3583.34,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" about your code or about the history,\",\"tokens\":[51098,466,428,3089,420,466,264,2503,11,51222]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.18559966216216217,\"compression_ratio\":1.9295774647887325,\"end\":3586.92,\"id\":926,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0203094482421875,\"seek\":359724,\"start\":3585.72,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" or about what you're trying to do,\",\"tokens\":[51222,420,466,437,291,434,1382,281,360,11,51276]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.18559966216216217,\"compression_ratio\":1.9295774647887325,\"end\":3588.96,\"id\":927,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0203094482421875,\"seek\":359724,\"start\":3587.02,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" or about who to talk to about something, right?\",\"tokens\":[51276,420,466,567,281,751,281,466,746,11,558,30,51424]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.18559966216216217,\"compression_ratio\":1.9295774647887325,\"end\":3593.64,\"id\":928,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0203094482421875,\"seek\":359724,\"start\":3590.08,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" And so I'm excited about that, but we kind of have to,\",\"tokens\":[51424,400,370,286,478,2919,466,300,11,457,321,733,295,362,281,11,51618]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.18559966216216217,\"compression_ratio\":1.9295774647887325,\"end\":3597.24,\"id\":929,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0203094482421875,\"seek\":359724,\"start\":3593.84,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" we're tackling like one section of the world\",\"tokens\":[51618,321,434,34415,411,472,3541,295,264,1002,51792]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.21861530172413793,\"compression_ratio\":1.6980392156862745,\"end\":3603.02,\"id\":930,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1036376953125,\"seek\":362338,\"start\":3597.24,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" the version control tools or of what Git does for us at a time, and it's interesting at\",\"tokens\":[50364,264,3037,1969,3873,420,295,437,16939,775,337,505,412,257,565,11,293,309,311,1880,412,50654]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.21861530172413793,\"compression_ratio\":1.6980392156862745,\"end\":3608.68,\"id\":931,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1036376953125,\"seek\":362338,\"start\":3603.02,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" every point to be like, is there anything that AI can be good at?
That otherwise seems\",\"tokens\":[50654,633,935,281,312,411,11,307,456,1340,300,7318,393,312,665,412,30,663,5911,2544,50940]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.21861530172413793,\"compression_ratio\":1.6980392156862745,\"end\":3614.14,\"id\":932,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1036376953125,\"seek\":362338,\"start\":3608.68,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" like a slog.
That's what I find people find the most valuable, right?
It can be cute\",\"tokens\":[50940,411,257,49760,13,663,311,437,286,915,561,915,264,881,8263,11,558,30,467,393,312,4052,51212]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.21861530172413793,\"compression_ratio\":1.6980392156862745,\"end\":3619,\"id\":933,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1036376953125,\"seek\":362338,\"start\":3614.14,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" or whatever, and there's some applications that you'll use it, and it's like, wow, it's\",\"tokens\":[51212,420,2035,11,293,456,311,512,5821,300,291,603,764,309,11,293,309,311,411,11,6076,11,309,311,51458]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.21861530172413793,\"compression_ratio\":1.6980392156862745,\"end\":3623.38,\"id\":934,\"no_speech_prob\":0.1036376953125,\"seek\":362338,\"start\":3619,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" interesting.
It can do this, but it's not really helping me that much.
It's just kind\",\"tokens\":[51458,1880,13,467,393,360,341,11,457,309,311,406,534,4315,385,300,709,13,467,311,445,733,51672]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1667220744680851,\"compression_ratio\":1.7161572052401746,\"end\":3629.72,\"id\":935,\"no_speech_prob\":0.054168701171875,\"seek\":364866,\"start\":3623.38,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" interesting and there's other stuff that's super interesting like I really love how how much less I\",\"tokens\":[50364,1880,293,456,311,661,1507,300,311,1687,1880,411,286,534,959,577,577,709,1570,286,50680]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1667220744680851,\"compression_ratio\":1.7161572052401746,\"end\":3636.56,\"id\":936,\"no_speech_prob\":0.054168701171875,\"seek\":364866,\"start\":3629.72,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" have to dig through documentation sites with you know crappy search indices when instead I can 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I think the question is obvious.
What do you think the future of version control is and the future of sharing code?\",\"tokens\":[50658,286,519,264,1168,307,6322,13,708,360,291,519,264,2027,295,3037,1969,307,293,264,2027,295,5414,3089,30,50926]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.23755787037037038,\"compression_ratio\":1.708955223880597,\"end\":3695.64,\"id\":957,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0826416015625,\"seek\":370364,\"start\":3689.8,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" Yeah, boy, that's a really great question.
I you know, I don't even know if this is a good answer to this.\",\"tokens\":[50938,865,11,3237,11,300,311,257,534,869,1168,13,286,291,458,11,286,500,380,754,458,498,341,307,257,665,1867,281,341,13,51248]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.23755787037037038,\"compression_ratio\":1.708955223880597,\"end\":3703.64,\"id\":958,\"no_speech_prob\":0.0826416015625,\"seek\":370364,\"start\":3696.04,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" My question actually about this that I'm most concerned about is where software development gets done in what time frame?\",\"tokens\":[51248,1222,1168,767,466,341,300,286,478,881,5922,466,307,689,4722,3250,2170,1096,294,437,565,3920,30,51650]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.2063301282051282,\"compression_ratio\":1.6592592592592592,\"end\":3710.92,\"id\":959,\"no_speech_prob\":0.048095703125,\"seek\":372968,\"start\":3704.18,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" Because there are tools like code spaces or get pod or something like that where 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Do we have different programming languages that are good at what AI's good\",\"tokens\":[50612,467,307,588,8952,22395,13,1144,321,362,819,9410,8650,300,366,665,412,437,7318,311,665,50984]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.20402298850574713,\"compression_ratio\":1.6891891891891893,\"end\":3801.86,\"id\":987,\"no_speech_prob\":0.11724853515625,\"seek\":380972,\"start\":3794.84,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" at?
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Like human beings can't\",\"tokens\":[50916,437,364,441,43,44,307,665,412,10501,293,29379,4997,294,8952,11,558,30,1743,1952,8958,393,380,51208]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.16847278225806453,\"compression_ratio\":1.7380073800738007,\"end\":3832.7,\"id\":992,\"no_speech_prob\":0.05572509765625,\"seek\":383746,\"start\":3826.7,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" do that.
And so nothing's designed for that.
So I'm, you know, I think we're in a really\",\"tokens\":[51208,360,300,13,400,370,1825,311,4761,337,300,13,407,286,478,11,291,458,11,286,519,321,434,294,257,534,51516]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.16847278225806453,\"compression_ratio\":1.7380073800738007,\"end\":3837.46,\"id\":993,\"no_speech_prob\":0.05572509765625,\"seek\":383746,\"start\":3832.7,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" interesting space where none of us really have a good idea and we kind of, you know, year to year,\",\"tokens\":[51516,1880,1901,689,6022,295,505,534,362,257,665,1558,293,321,733,295,11,291,458,11,1064,281,1064,11,51748]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17565247252747251,\"compression_ratio\":1.641255605381166,\"end\":3841.62,\"id\":994,\"no_speech_prob\":0.07794189453125,\"seek\":386300,\"start\":3837.46,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" month to month kind of have to figure out what could be possible in a year or five years.\",\"tokens\":[50364,1618,281,1618,733,295,362,281,2573,484,437,727,312,1944,294,257,1064,420,1732,924,13,50588]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17565247252747251,\"compression_ratio\":1.641255605381166,\"end\":3846.64,\"id\":995,\"no_speech_prob\":0.07794189453125,\"seek\":386300,\"start\":3842.12,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" But I think at the end of the day, what's really important about our jobs, about software development,\",\"tokens\":[50588,583,286,519,412,264,917,295,264,786,11,437,311,534,1021,466,527,4782,11,466,4722,3250,11,50820]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17565247252747251,\"compression_ratio\":1.641255605381166,\"end\":3855.78,\"id\":996,\"no_speech_prob\":0.07794189453125,\"seek\":386300,\"start\":3846.9,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" is having taste in what the end user has.
I'm trying to make tools to make that\",\"tokens\":[50820,307,1419,3939,294,437,264,917,4195,575,13,286,478,1382,281,652,3873,281,652,300,51280]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.17565247252747251,\"compression_ratio\":1.641255605381166,\"end\":3863,\"id\":997,\"no_speech_prob\":0.07794189453125,\"seek\":386300,\"start\":3855.78,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" process easier to get out of your brain and do.
But just like you can build great software in\",\"tokens\":[51280,1399,3571,281,483,484,295,428,3567,293,360,13,583,445,411,291,393,1322,869,4722,294,51652]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.24015151515151514,\"compression_ratio\":1.8581081081081081,\"end\":3864.74,\"id\":998,\"no_speech_prob\":0.32666015625,\"seek\":389066,\"start\":3863,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" and react even though I hate it.\",\"tokens\":[50364,293,4515,754,1673,286,4700,309,13,50470]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.24015151515151514,\"compression_ratio\":1.8581081081081081,\"end\":3867.18,\"id\":999,\"no_speech_prob\":0.32666015625,\"seek\":389066,\"start\":3865.16,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" You can build great software in Svelte.\",\"tokens\":[50470,509,393,1322,869,4722,294,318,779,975,13,50576]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.24015151515151514,\"compression_ratio\":1.8581081081081081,\"end\":3868.52,\"id\":1000,\"no_speech_prob\":0.32666015625,\"seek\":389066,\"start\":3867.28,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" You can build great software in Ruby,\",\"tokens\":[50576,509,393,1322,869,4722,294,19907,11,50654]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.24015151515151514,\"compression_ratio\":1.8581081081081081,\"end\":3870,\"id\":1001,\"no_speech_prob\":0.32666015625,\"seek\":389066,\"start\":3868.74,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" even on lots of people hate it, right?\",\"tokens\":[50654,754,322,3195,295,561,4700,309,11,558,30,50736]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.24015151515151514,\"compression_ratio\":1.8581081081081081,\"end\":3872.56,\"id\":1002,\"no_speech_prob\":0.32666015625,\"seek\":389066,\"start\":3870.42,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" Like there's, you can have these wars,\",\"tokens\":[50736,1743,456,311,11,291,393,362,613,13718,11,50852]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.24015151515151514,\"compression_ratio\":1.8581081081081081,\"end\":3874.08,\"id\":1003,\"no_speech_prob\":0.32666015625,\"seek\":389066,\"start\":3872.66,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" but it doesn't, in the end of the day,\",\"tokens\":[50852,457,309,1177,380,11,294,264,917,295,264,786,11,50952]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.24015151515151514,\"compression_ratio\":1.8581081081081081,\"end\":3877.08,\"id\":1004,\"no_speech_prob\":0.32666015625,\"seek\":389066,\"start\":3874.74,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" Scala or whatever you choose, who gives a shit, right?\",\"tokens\":[50952,2747,5159,420,2035,291,2826,11,567,2709,257,4611,11,558,30,51074]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.24015151515151514,\"compression_ratio\":1.8581081081081081,\"end\":3879.26,\"id\":1005,\"no_speech_prob\":0.32666015625,\"seek\":389066,\"start\":3877.52,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" Like what matters is, is this good,\",\"tokens\":[51074,1743,437,7001,307,11,307,341,665,11,51192]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.24015151515151514,\"compression_ratio\":1.8581081081081081,\"end\":3880.96,\"id\":1006,\"no_speech_prob\":0.32666015625,\"seek\":389066,\"start\":3879.38,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" does this solve somebody's problem?\",\"tokens\":[51192,775,341,5039,2618,311,1154,30,51270]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.24015151515151514,\"compression_ratio\":1.8581081081081081,\"end\":3884.28,\"id\":1007,\"no_speech_prob\":0.32666015625,\"seek\":389066,\"start\":3881.06,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" And so I think like that, AI will be a good way\",\"tokens\":[51270,400,370,286,519,411,300,11,7318,486,312,257,665,636,51434]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.24015151515151514,\"compression_ratio\":1.8581081081081081,\"end\":3886.56,\"id\":1008,\"no_speech_prob\":0.32666015625,\"seek\":389066,\"start\":3884.28,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" of generating software, but you have to have a good idea,\",\"tokens\":[51434,295,17746,4722,11,457,291,362,281,362,257,665,1558,11,51552]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.24015151515151514,\"compression_ratio\":1.8581081081081081,\"end\":3886.82,\"id\":1009,\"no_speech_prob\":0.32666015625,\"seek\":389066,\"start\":3886.72,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" right?\",\"tokens\":[51552,558,30,51594]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.24015151515151514,\"compression_ratio\":1.8581081081081081,\"end\":3889.42,\"id\":1010,\"no_speech_prob\":0.32666015625,\"seek\":389066,\"start\":3886.86,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" You have to have good taste on what that needs to do\",\"tokens\":[51594,509,362,281,362,665,3939,322,437,300,2203,281,360,51694]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.24015151515151514,\"compression_ratio\":1.8581081081081081,\"end\":3890.66,\"id\":1011,\"no_speech_prob\":0.32666015625,\"seek\":389066,\"start\":3889.42,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" for people, for human beings.\",\"tokens\":[51694,337,561,11,337,1952,8958,13,51756]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1488095238095238,\"compression_ratio\":1.7302158273381294,\"end\":3894.36,\"id\":1012,\"no_speech_prob\":0.265380859375,\"seek\":391662,\"start\":3890.66,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" and I think that's going to be difficult to get out of the process, which is exciting to me.\",\"tokens\":[50364,293,286,519,300,311,516,281,312,2252,281,483,484,295,264,1399,11,597,307,4670,281,385,13,50572]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1488095238095238,\"compression_ratio\":1.7302158273381294,\"end\":3900.66,\"id\":1013,\"no_speech_prob\":0.265380859375,\"seek\":391662,\"start\":3894.92,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" The future is fuzzy, but we'll get there.
That wraps it up for our questions this episode.\",\"tokens\":[50572,440,2027,307,34710,11,457,321,603,483,456,13,663,25831,309,493,337,527,1651,341,3500,13,50864]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1488095238095238,\"compression_ratio\":1.7302158273381294,\"end\":3904.34,\"id\":1014,\"no_speech_prob\":0.265380859375,\"seek\":391662,\"start\":3900.82,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" Thanks for coming on, Scott.
This was a super interesting conversation about the\",\"tokens\":[50864,2561,337,1348,322,11,6659,13,639,390,257,1687,1880,3761,466,264,51044]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1488095238095238,\"compression_ratio\":1.7302158273381294,\"end\":3907.86,\"id\":1015,\"no_speech_prob\":0.265380859375,\"seek\":391662,\"start\":3904.34,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" history of Git Hub and what you're doing with Git Butler.
Thanks for coming on.\",\"tokens\":[51044,2503,295,16939,18986,293,437,291,434,884,365,16939,27571,13,2561,337,1348,322,13,51232]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1488095238095238,\"compression_ratio\":1.7302158273381294,\"end\":3909.88,\"id\":1016,\"no_speech_prob\":0.265380859375,\"seek\":391662,\"start\":3908.18,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" Yeah, thank you for having me.
It's been great.\",\"tokens\":[51232,865,11,1309,291,337,1419,385,13,467,311,668,869,13,51332]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.1488095238095238,\"compression_ratio\":1.7302158273381294,\"end\":3916.62,\"id\":1017,\"no_speech_prob\":0.265380859375,\"seek\":391662,\"start\":3910.22,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" Yeah, thanks, Scott.
I really enjoy Git Butler a lot.
It's been really fun to work with.\",\"tokens\":[51332,865,11,3231,11,6659,13,286,534,2103,16939,27571,257,688,13,467,311,668,534,1019,281,589,365,13,51672]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.29328547297297297,\"compression_ratio\":1.8633333333333333,\"end\":3921.96,\"id\":1018,\"no_speech_prob\":0.27490234375,\"seek\":394298,\"start\":3916.62,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" I'm not working.
I'm not using it as much right now because I'm just started to start up with a friend of mine and\",\"tokens\":[50364,286,478,406,1364,13,286,478,406,1228,309,382,709,558,586,570,286,478,445,1409,281,722,493,365,257,1277,295,3892,293,50620]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.29328547297297297,\"compression_ratio\":1.8633333333333333,\"end\":3926.36,\"id\":1019,\"no_speech_prob\":0.27490234375,\"seek\":394298,\"start\":3921.96,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" We're using some modules a ton like more than I've ever used some modules\",\"tokens\":[50642,492,434,1228,512,16679,257,2952,411,544,813,286,600,1562,1143,512,16679,50856]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.29328547297297297,\"compression_ratio\":1.8633333333333333,\"end\":3930.34,\"id\":1020,\"no_speech_prob\":0.27490234375,\"seek\":394298,\"start\":3926.36,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" So when you have some modules before you let me know I know I'll get back on the track\",\"tokens\":[50856,407,562,291,362,512,16679,949,291,718,385,458,286,458,286,603,483,646,322,264,2837,51049]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.29328547297297297,\"compression_ratio\":1.8633333333333333,\"end\":3932.8,\"id\":1021,\"no_speech_prob\":0.27490234375,\"seek\":394298,\"start\":3930.34,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" We haven't started to tackle that that that's a beast\",\"tokens\":[51049,492,2378,380,1409,281,14896,300,300,300,311,257,13464,51173]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.29328547297297297,\"compression_ratio\":1.8633333333333333,\"end\":3936,\"id\":1022,\"no_speech_prob\":0.27490234375,\"seek\":394298,\"start\":3932.8,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" We've we've we just wrote in a thing we got so many probably just wrote in a thing\",\"tokens\":[51173,492,600,321,600,321,445,4114,294,257,551,321,658,370,867,1391,445,4114,294,257,551,51334]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.29328547297297297,\"compression_ratio\":1.8633333333333333,\"end\":3937.94,\"id\":1023,\"no_speech_prob\":0.27490234375,\"seek\":394298,\"start\":3936,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" It's like if you see to get modules just stop\",\"tokens\":[51334,467,311,411,498,291,536,281,483,16679,445,1590,51429]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.29328547297297297,\"compression_ratio\":1.8633333333333333,\"end\":3942.98,\"id\":1024,\"no_speech_prob\":0.27490234375,\"seek\":394298,\"start\":3938.8199999999997,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" Yeah, I know I know cuz it like suddenly didn't work for me anymore.
I was like wait, what happened?\",\"tokens\":[51466,865,11,286,458,286,458,11910,309,411,5800,994,380,589,337,385,3602,13,286,390,411,1699,11,437,2011,30,51682]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.19755859375,\"compression_ratio\":1.673913043478261,\"end\":3946.82,\"id\":1025,\"no_speech_prob\":0.071533203125,\"seek\":397086,\"start\":3942.98,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" And anyway, yeah, but it's fantastic work.\",\"tokens\":[50364,400,4033,11,1338,11,457,309,311,5456,589,13,50564]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.19755859375,\"compression_ratio\":1.673913043478261,\"end\":3948.14,\"id\":1026,\"no_speech_prob\":0.071533203125,\"seek\":397086,\"start\":3946.86,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" I'm really excited about the future\",\"tokens\":[50564,286,478,534,2919,466,264,2027,50642]},{\"avg_logprob\":-0.19755859375,\"compression_ratio\":1.673913043478261,\"end\":3949.32,\"id\":1027,\"no_speech_prob\":0.071533203125,\"seek\":397086,\"start\":3948.14,\"temperature\":0,\"text\":\" of what you're doing 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And it was like if we had the taste that kind of went into the tools that we did and sort of, you know, usability and going to first principles and thinking about what are we really trying to do with this set of tools, right?
Like what would GitHub possibly have created?
Hello, welcome to the DevTools.fm podcast.
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Hey everyone.
Today we're really excited to introduce Scott Chicone.
So Scott is a co-founder of GitHub.
You also co-founded Chatterbox and now you are working on a product called Get Butler, which I am super excited about.
Scott, thank you so much for joining us.
Before we start talking about the things that you've worked on, would you like to tell our listeners a little bit more about yourself?
Oh, that's a pretty good overview of places that I've worked there.
Yeah, no, I live in in Berlin as well.
So I used to live in the Bay area, but but so, you know, a lot of my I do I have done a little bit of angel investing through a company called scene.
And so, but yeah, at the end of the day, I'm a startup guy.
So I think I'm going to be working at startups until I'm kicked the bucket at some point.
That's cool.
Is Chatterbug still running?
I wasn't sure what the exact status of that.
Yeah, so Chatterbug, you know, we raised, we kind of did the, you know, when you raise money in sort of a VC setting, you can either kind of go bigger, go home.
It didn't really get to the point where we could raise another round, but I had personally invested a lot of money into it, and we had raised kind of too much for it to be able to exit really.
And so we kind of spun it down.
It was profitable, right, like if there was almost nobody working at it.
So we kind of spun it down, like it's still running, it runs by, it's essentially just runs by itself and makes some profit.
And so one of the guys that used TJ that used to work at Chatterbug sort of took it over and just runs it essentially by himself.
So there's still tons and tons of people that are learning languages and using Chatterbug on a daily basis.
But I decided that I should probably spend my time working on something else.
Nice, yeah.
That makes me think of Muse, Adam Wiggins, most recent project.
They had a similar sort of thing, it's just like realizing it's like, okay, to get the sort of like size of audience that we want, we're not really going to be able to reach that with this.
So they did the same thing and like spun it down to like a small minimal.
I think there's a solo person who's like sort of maintaining the project and moving it forward now.
Yeah, actually, it's funny.
I just talked to Adam about that he lives in Berlin as well like we kind of have similar journeys and we just had had a meeting the other day.
He's coming out to the conference that we're putting on called the merge in Berlin in a couple months and so I'll be talking to him about some of that stuff too which I'm looking forward to.
Yeah, Adam's great.
Cool, so let's maybe dive right into it.
So, you know, GitHub has been obviously very tremendously influential and impactful on the development industry at large.
I mean, it's hard to think about, like, pre-git hub days and how gnarly just centralized source control, like having some place to go to download code was.
So how did the idea for GitHub start?
And did you ever think it was going to be as big as it is today?
Yeah, I mean, it's funny now, I've been, you know, now that I'm back in working on developer tools, I've been speaking at some conferences again about version control or sort of software development, and I'm realizing I've been out of, you know, I've been working in this language learning thing for seven years now before that, since I left GitHub.
And now there's a whole generation of software developers who have never used anything other than getting GitHub, like they, you know, they never use subversion.
They never, they learn get in college, right?
And it's such a, such a strange, like, this just wasn't my mentality.
Like, when I first started, you know, working on GitHub, I was going around trying to teach people, like, trying to convince them, you should use get because it's better than subversion.
And here's why, right?
Or better than perforce.
And here's why.
And look at how cool branching is.
And now, like, it's almost the opposite of trying to, trying to be like, it doesn't have to be like this, right?
Like, there, or there was a time when there were options and there were pluses and minuses.
Yeah, I mean, essentially it started because, because Git was coming up, I mean, there was this whole era, I'm sure you guys probably remember this where everybody was using subversion in open source for the most part, or CVS, right, if you just didn't want to take the leap because it wasn't really a big enough difference for you.
Or you're in a corporate environment, you'd be using perfor, so you'd be using clear case or, you know, whatever.
And then this explosion of these cool distributed virtual systems all came out kind of at the same time, right?
There was like bizarre and material and darks and and get and and at the time, like none of us really knew what was going to win.
We are, I think everybody was kind of trying them out if you were kind of on the edge, right?
And you're like, let's see if this is a little be cooler, or a little bit better for what I'm trying to do.
And the open source in my world, the Ruby world, we all moved to get, but that wasn't true for everybody.
Some communities went down the Mercurial route or whatever, and there was a lot of competition between these groups.
And I find that so interesting.
It was so much fun to be in that world.
But there Like we knew each other from Ruby meetups in San Francisco and Tom and Chris started working on GitHub and kind of, you know, I knew Git really well.
I had written a book on Git because I had learned it for something else I was doing.
And so, you know, I like to document stuff and try to help the next person that comes behind me.
That's just something fun for me to do.
And so, you know, we kind of got together because I actually really knew Git very well.
And they just liked Git a lot and kind of wanted to, you know, make a host that was better than some guy in Lithuania or whatever that had like repo.org.cz or whatever the hosting solution was at the time.
So that's kind of how it was scratch your own H type thing in the early days.
And I love the idea of sort of working in developer tools and so that's how it got started.
And to answer your last question, very provably none of us thought it would be a big deal.
We even talked to VCs in the early days, and they were telling us, you know, the total market cap of all of this type of developer tooling would be like a hundred million dollars, right?
And I think we sold it up for seven billion dollars.
It was completely ridiculous, right?
They clearly didn't.
None of us knew what this could be.
And we were all So, surprised by it, and most of my time at GitHub, I think, was taken up by us trying to handle steering a rocket ship that, you know, kind of took off much faster than any of us expected.
And it was a hell of a time, but definitely not expected.
So, in the early days, I thought that you wrote the git book after you guys mounted GitHub, but you wrote it before.
So, can you tell us about like why you did that and some of the fun things you learned along the way while writing it?
Yeah, so actually, it's a little, a little confusing.
I wrote a book.
I actually worked on the Git community book, which was kind of the documentation that was around the Git community at the time.
I helped augment that.
And then I wrote from scratch a peep code PDF.
If you guys remember peep code that you can still find online, it was open source after peep code was acquired.
And then I started work on APRESS approach me about the Pro Git book and so the real sort of publisher that you know, the Git book that you would read on, on gssm.com right now, that's creative comments, dual licensed.
And so I started that after I started working at GitHub.
I was there for about a year probably before I started that project.
But yeah, so I've written a lot a lot of stuff on get the before that was the the peak code one though.
So so I'd I'd been I have no no end of interest in documenting and talking about get apparently.
But yeah, to go back to your other question, like what you learn, right?
I think anytime that you write a book, you learn mostly what you don't know, right?
Like I was pretty good at Git and I knew Git really well and I could, you know, describe the sort of object database and stuff like that.
There's tons of stuff that I didn't know, right?
Like I never really used submodules professionally or I never done like sub-tree merging or there was all this stuff that it could do and I knew it could do it and I knew theoretically that it was capable of doing it And then I'd have to kind of teach my, I'd have to give myself, you know, like a challenge, right, and see if I could solve it and then see if I could document the solution to it and then help somebody else.
And I always felt very kind of crappy about those parts of the book, because it's like I've never really used, you know, I try constantly now to talk to people that have different workflows and try to get an idea of, you know, I kind of want to sit over their shoulder and be like, what, how do you use this and what is frustrating about it and what is good about it, right?
Like, we'll, we'll end up talking about, get bothered at some point, but that's a lot of what I'm trying to do with that as well as be like, I know what my workflow is, like I know how I use these tools and I know kind of some of the designs that but like, you know, there's so much you don't know if you try to write a comprehensive book about something about anything and it's very humbling.
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Yeah, our past sponsor code crafters has this course where you build your own Git from scratch and so many different things that I built during that course just blew my mind.
The first being that Git started without being a version control system and was really this lower level set of utilities you were supposed to build your own version control system on.
It's like when I learned that, I was like, oh, I see Git Butler, it was just like the idea there was just like calling to be made.
Yeah, actually, it's surprising that fewer version control systems have really done that, right?
Like, there's nothing that kind of has Git as the object database or the transport mechanism, right, of just saying, here's how to get trees from A to B, which is, like you said, if you look at the first commit and Git, right, you can compile that C code and you can write stuff that's still generally readable by Git now, and the commands are a little obtuse, but it still does essentially what Git does, right?
And there wasn't, you know, essentially, like the one guy, I forget what his name is, started writing some Perl scripts, you know, to kind of automate some of this, and then that just kind of got turned into the porcelain stuff, right?
But it hasn't really been modified that much since then, and more more incredibly to me, nobody's come out with a GUI that doesn't just wrap all those commands, that comes up with some completely different way of doing it and just writes that database out, which is completely doable, which is mostly what we're doing.
It's easier now with us because we're using LiveGit 2, there's some libraries and stuff, you don't have to fork exec out everything, but yeah, I mean, it's all a database and then tools on top of it and you don't have to use those tools in order to use that database, right?
But, but it hasn't really been done a lot since then.
It is really interesting how like, I mean, obviously Git has won the sort of decentralized source control wars.
And, you know, it brings a lot of like incredible power to the developer.
And it's been a great tool, but it feels like of the tools in our tool chain that we rely on so much.
It kind of shows, it's like there are definitely some words that like people are more and more aware of.
And especially if you have like younger engineers who this is like as you mentioned earlier, this is all they know.
And they get into it and they're like, oh god, I messed up.
What do I do?
You teach them about like reflog or something.
And there's like, there's a lot of overhead to just the workflow and the UX that's there.
I remember having conversations with some colleagues a little bit earlier in my career and they were like really die hard on the curial because they thought that the, there's just UX of Maccurial, like how you interact with Maccurial was a better experience, like the kind of commands that you had.
And even more recently, when I was at Oxide, there's people talking about the, there's this tool called JJ, which is another, yeah, exactly, Jiu Jitsu being...
I, if, you know, if you're listening to this podcast and you're interested in, in version control tools, I would definitely say check out Jiu Jitsu because it's, in my opinion, the most interesting, other than GitBuller, obviously.
But it's the most interesting thing going on and let's say command line version control tools, right?
Because they have kind of done this, right?
They do have Git as this backend that they're writing objects into.
And so it is compatible fully with you.
You push it to GitHub, you can't tell that you're using something that's not Git, right?
But they do the user interface as much, much just the whole approach to how they put patches together and how they do commits, right?
You have to relearn stuff a little bit, but it's totally fascinating.
You just say, I want a new workspace, and that essentially commits the last one, and there's no index.
It's just your working directories kind of what your next commit is going to look like.
It's a slightly different shift, but it changes the way that you approach your work in a very interesting manner.
right where it's essentially a much better rebasing tool, right?
Like rebasing is so powerful, but it's such a pain to use.
And they've really been like, what can we, how can we get what is interesting about rebasing, but make it very, very easy to use and really encourage that style of workflow?
And actually, it's funny just today, actually, this week I've been working a lot on trying to get a lot of those things into GitBuller and allow you to work in that in that manner, right, like opening up a commit, five commits back and taking a file or a hunk out of a file, you committed there and dragging it, three commits up and having it automatically rebase everything, so that it looks like you're just kind of moving changes around your commits, right?
And letting you kind of do this patch-centric sort of workflow.
But yeah, to go back to your point, right, there are really interesting things that you can do in what we're all trying to do, which is really put together a group of changes that is documented so that if you look at it later, you understand why those changes were done together or reviewable, right?
By whatever review system that you're using and kind of combining them into commits is a nice, can be a nice way of doing that.
But yeah, I, I, I, jujitsu was very exciting to me.
And, and, you know, even, even the other way, like I just had beers with the material, the guys who took over Mercurial development but recently, and the guy, I forget what his name is, that does Pujol, which is sort of the Darks 2.0 theory of Patch's thing, and they're all passionate about version control tools, right?
And there's a small set of us nerds, the version control nerds, that sit down and have beers and kind of argue over what style is better, is really fascinating.
But at the end of the day, developers just want to do their work and kind of have it be as easy as possible and be able to communicate that and transfer that as easily as possible.
And none of the tools are really very focused on that.
And I think it could be very different.
I want to move on to talk about Git Butler.
But before we do, I have one question for you about GitHub and its legacy.
So the pull-acres model is something that I contribute to GitHub is it's kind of changed how a lot of people think about contributing to a Git codebase, you know, specifically through GitHub.
But there is this one thing that I've heard repeatedly about the sort of side effects of how pull requests work.
So you create a pull request, you have a branch and you create a pull request from that branch and you've got a lot of code committed and then people come in and review it.
So it's like, there's almost this encourage to like review later in the process.
Um, and the other thing is it's like, this is just, you know, a part of Git.
And again, I think this is T off our conversation with Git Butler.
But like, poor requests tend to get larger over time, like bigger because it's like harder to break those things down.
I've heard a lot of people wishing there were things like stacked PRs, like you could do that easier.
Um, and I mean, I feel like a lot of this is, you You know, just derived from the primitives of the pull request, you know, that legacy of like how GitHub introduced how we merged changes into a code basic.
Can you think about like, or can you talk about like how y'all are thinking about that originally and how you're thinking on it has maybe evolved over time and like where we landed out with that?
Yeah, I mean, originally, you know, we were, you know, in the early, early days, the pull request was just an email that said, here's how to run the Git pull command locally so so that you can fetch a branch down and merge it into whatever branch that you're in.
And so it would just be an email that said, run this command line thing, and then that will pull this reference and merge it, and you can test it.
And if you like it, you can push it back to yours, right?
And so it didn't really have this interface, and it didn't have this sort of unified diff that the pull request interface has now, which I think is kind of part of what the problem set is of how people have changed.
because in the early days, you know, pull requests was really just an easier way of sending a series of patches, right?
But you could still sort of rebase your stuff or sort of squash work together or something and kind of work on a series of patches.
Like if you think about the mailing list, right, or how you would communicate over a mailing list, even with Git today, if you want to contribute to Git or to Linux kernel or something, and you used Git to do this, a lot of the really tools were developed to send series of patches of email.
And so every commit message is the email body, right?
And then and then it sort of has this diff that's that's associated with it that you can you can pull into an inbox, pull out of an inbox and apply and stuff.
But like everybody's thinking about commits as you send it to the mailing list, and it's just a thread of like three emails, right?
And they're they're they're reviewed as commits, not as a unified diff of all of the commits in the branch sort of squashed into into squashing it, squashed out.
And so how GitHub evolved was trying to make that process easier and like more, more, because it's very hard to send patches over email.
If you've ever tried to do it without fucking it up, it's incredibly difficult to do right.
If you're not just living out of inbox all the time, right?
And so if you use Gmail and you want to contribute a patch to Git, it's very hard to do properly without getting yelled at.
And so we wanted to make that accessible because it was really, we wanted to make Git usable for people and to collaborate and open source and stuff.
So in making it easy, what we did was make it so that if somebody gives you some review and you want to fix a bug, what's easiest is to fix the bug and then you do a new commit because now you don't have to learn, not everybody has to learn how to be a rebase master, right, which you otherwise have to.
You have to be very, very good at sort of all of that that rebasing type and interactive rebasing and stopping and amending something and squashing and all that.
And we wanted to not have that be a barrier, right?
You could just use Git for everything that it's really good at.
And for collaboration, who cares, right?
Like just add the thing that fixes it, but it breaks blame and it breaks a lot of stuff and it makes it makes review really difficult because we didn't do review it on a per commit basis, right?
We're doing it on this unified div basis.
And so I think there's, you know, there's sort of pluses and minuses to that to that process.
I think that there is space for some sort of review system that is more patch-based.
What StackDiffs really try to do is bring back this concept of reviewing on a commit basis, and the way that they do it is by throwing several branch pointers into a branch.
Essentially, every commit has its own branch, and then they're all based on each other so that you can review them.
But really, you know, you just want to review kind of one committed at a time or be good at, you know, have everybody be good at rebasing.
So, so, you know, I think that there's something in between that.
We, I think the, the, the future, like what would be really nice with some combination of these things, right?
Where you can, you can have something online, it can have a nice review process, it can be on a per commit basis.
I think stack diffs is just a way of, of getting around how, what GitHub's interface is rather than that's really how you you want to review stuff, right?
So, but in the end of the day, what you really want is do you want the reviewers job to be easier than your, like, if your tools are easy, you really want the reviewers job to be easy because you don't want them to come into some massive unified diff and there's issues with that as well.
Like, everything's in alphabetical order, right?
Like, like, if you want to test a file or you want to review a file and then the test, test that file and they're at complete opposite ends of the unified diff.
It's really frustrating.
You want more of a story of, here's what happened and so, you know, sending patches, having a nice patch series and sending to a mailing list kind of gives you that story in a more reviewable way, I think.
But GitHub, it's difficult to do that way, right?
So you have graphite or you have fabricator, you have these tools that kind of help do both, right?
Be in the GitHub world, but also do review in a way that's a little bit more approachable for larger sets or for if you want to learn in your history or something.
I don't know if I've really answered your question rather than drawn on a bit, but I think there's still room in the world for a much better review system if we have tools that help make rebasing easier.
If you're using Gijitsu and that is everybody's using that or if you're using hopefully GitBuller makes that easier at some point and you're more worried about what is my patch series look like and you have review tools that are good at reviewing those types of you know things that are rebased a lot like force pushing to get up branches is a pain for everybody right like like so you have to have something that kind of helps mitigate that but but if you do if the tools make that easy and if the review sort of has I think splitting up review into commits or being able to tell more of a story with your with your history would be much, much better way of collaborating.
Yeah, I am so surprised that anything got done back in the email patch days.
Like, I've very much grown up in the, like, get basically only, like, I used a little bit of perforce when I was in intern, but like, doing that over email just seems like an impossible task to me.
Yeah, it's fascinating.
It's fascinating to look at that, at that, like, you know, I've been trying to kind of learn, like I said, what people's workflows are, and it's really interesting workflow, right?
It's very different than sort of the GitHub workflow, and it has pluses and minuses.
But like some of the, you know, it's interesting to see, you know, V10 of a series or something, right?
Where you can see the previous versions in the previous comments and what was addressed and, you know, sort of it gives you this nice story.
And it's, again, this one sort of email per commit.
So you can just look at the ones that you're interested in if you want.
Just, I'm, you know, I'm the front end event.
I'm just going to look at the front end commit or whatever, right?
And it's specifically documented.
And you can kind of inline comment in the patch, right?
Like it's really, it has power that you lose with using GitHub PRs. And again, it's much harder to use, right?
So you have to have this high bar for everyone to come in on it, which is not necessarily a good thing either, right?
But yeah, some middle ground, I think, would be interesting in the future.
So now that we've talked about all things get in version control, you have a new app, a new thing built on top of Git called Git butler, so could you explain to us what Git butler is and how it makes the Git workflow better?
Yeah, so when I left chat a bug and we were thinking about what to do, I really kind of got into this version control quite obviously.
I have a lot of opinions on it.
I'm very interested in it.
You know, my background is all sort of in GitHub.
And I thought it would be interesting to try to, that if GitHub had decided, that let's write our own version control system, right?
And it was like if we had the taste that kind of went into the tools that we did and sort of usability and going to first principles and thinking about what are we really trying to do with this set of tools, right?
Like what would GitHub possibly have created?
Like what would a client that, because GitHub's always kind of pushed that off to the open source community and said, and then they contribute to it, and Microsoft contributes to it a lot today, but not really in a user interface way, right?
We're not there's no tearing it down and saying let's pretend like we owned this whole sphere, right?
And what could be possible there?
And I found that question really, really interesting of just challenging myself of what preconceptions do I have about version control that are based on Git because I've been using it for 15 years now, right?
And I hardly remember how to use anything else.
So it was kind of a fun mental exercise.
And so we started this company and started building tools and went off in one complete direction that we've essentially totally abandoned and found something that sticks a lot.
We were trying, I was trying to do the first, sorry if I go with a little thing here, but what I was, the first thing that we were going around was I wanted a version control system that doesn't lose my work, right?
Like you can lose your work and get, you can mess up stuff.
And but I was trying to think of other systems that do version control types of things right and I thought a lot about Google Docs and and how Google Docs does version control but in a massively different way than think it does and and Started thinking about like what are the what are the advantages and disadvantages of that right?
There's you can't fork it and go in different direction and and there's no forking and but on the other hand there's no merging And there's no losing work and there's no committing right like it just constantly is looking at what you're doing and it's saving versions and you can always go back to stuff, so there's interesting aspects of that, and I thought it would be nice if get just had some, you know, Damon in the background that was saving CRDTs of your work all the time, so you never lose anything, right?
And just synchronizing it to the cloud somewhere, so you can just move over to another computer and turn on the client and you get your working directory that you had over there, right?
Like, you don't have to commit in order to push something over the wire.
And I found that really, and we built that out and we built a little timeline where you can go back and see what you know what what and we found it it just wasn't very useful right like like it's useful if you lose work but you lose work what like once a month right and it really sucks but but you know it we we wanted something that was more daily practical and so started looking at branches and and tearing that down and being like what do we really use branches for and so right now what mostly get Butler does is branch management and because we came up with this idea of virtual branches of saying you know if I'm working on something and I see a bug like right now and get get can only have one context at a time and so you have to you know everybody's done this a million times right like you're working on some feature and you really deep into it and you see something you want to fix like documentation or bug or something small and you're like I can either stash everything I have right or do a work in progress commit or whatever start a new branch fix the thing push it up try to get it integrated cherry pick it in whatever right like it becomes kind of this this this issue and it's annoying all the time.
And so what most people do is they'll, they'll just fix it in that branch, right?
And be like, it'll probably get integrated when this branch get, I'm sure it's fine, right?
Like, even though it's, it's orthogonal, you, you put it in, in one context because it's easy.
It's, you have to essentially be in one context at a time.
And I was trying to figure out why that was, right?
There's no particular reason, it's only because of the design of, of the index in the head, right?
That, that get can only really be on one branch at a time.
There's no reason that you couldn't say for every entry in the index, say, this goes to branch A and this goes to branch B, or whatever.
And so that's essentially what we do is we run, I get diff between this upstream version, so origin master, origin main, or whatever you want to eventually integrate into.
And then it diffs, you're working directory and says, here's all the punks that I see that are different.
Here's everything I see that's not integrated.
So by definition, this is a branch, right?
And you don't have to create it and you don't have to name it.
It's just, it's kind of like anonymous branching, gives you a context, and then if you want to hunk to be in another branch, you just sort of drag it in the GUI over into another lane and it says, okay, that's a branch.
And then when you commit it, it just essentially takes, you know, the base that you have and applies all the patches that are bookmarked for that and creates a tree and creates a commit and pushes it off to GitHub and just kind of keeps them separate, right?
So you can keep committing and working in multiple contexts at the same time.
and we just sort of the smart index kind of keeps them all in memory separated and tries to remember what goes where so that the next commit it writes a tree out as though that was the only thing there right so that when you review it and when you merge it and the nice thing is you're kind of doing the opposite you're starting with a working direct let's say you do a whole bunch of work and then you you you take them and you you take all your work and you drag it into three different branches and commit them and push them the nice thing is you know that they all merge cleanly because you essentially started out with the merge product, and then you extracted them into separate branches, right?
So once they're all merged, the tree is going to look like whatever the working director you started with when you extracted.
And so that's kind of nice, right?
Because you can take in other people's remote branches and sort of apply them as virtual branches that sit alongside the work you're doing and say, okay, these things, this is what would happen.
And Git actually does like if you look at GitMain and say something like Junio will do this or Linux kernel, they'll merge in like 10 branches into one big octopus merge and then try out everything and then unroll it again because they want to see if they all kind of work together.
But it's too much of a pain for most people to do and so most people don't do that even though Git is fine with that.
But not everybody wants the rollback stuff or have these merge products that are all over their code base or whatever.
So people tend not to do it but it's totally doable.
And so yeah, so we made this gooey, I thought it'd be nice to start with a gooey and try to figure out is there a way of, you know, making a drag and drop type thing that can be a very powerful tool for for managing information, but, but every gooey that's been built on Git just does stuff that Git does and just kind of fork execs out stuff.
and so usually it's faster to just write it on the command line if you know what to do, right?
And so we wanted to be like, is there ways of like, you can't have multiple branches and get, so like simultaneously applied.
And so we were like, let's still goo in, you can just drag a hunk over, right?
I don't have to list them out and do a number and say, move it to this branch or whatever.
You can just drag stuff.
And so, so yeah, we started building that on Intori.
So now I'm a Rust developer, which is, you know, I should never be let anywhere near a systems language, but I do do a lot of Rust work now.
But it's been super, super interesting to build out just sort of this vision of how would I want branches to work.
And it is quite complex in how we're actually building these trees and applying patches and figuring out communication and all this stuff.
But we need to make it look very easy.
And so it's a really fun challenge.
And GitHub was very much the same.
Like I think everything strives for simplicity and make it as easy as possible to do what you want to do in the background.
It can be incredibly complicated.
And I find those really, really fun projects.
Yeah, that's awesome.
There's a lot to unpack there.
To go back to where you started, sort of like the first thing you explored, I do want to give a shout out to the Ink and Switch team, Adam Wiggins and Co. They're working on this project called Patchwork, which is like a universal source control for everything.
They're kind of just trying to figure out like, What are universal source control patterns like if you're just like trying to integrate You know source control type work flows into your app like how would you do that?
And they have a really interesting research Paper that they're working on for that.
I'll link that in the show notes This this idea of virtual branches though when I first saw get Butler I've seen this this idea of virtual branches and it clicked with me immediately because I actually like But branches are kind of my bane and get, because the thing is, I am doing work and I don't care what branch I'm in when I'm doing the work.
I really don't care, I don't want to think about it.
I'm doing things and I know that I need certain things to be in certain PRs and the big problem is, and I've had this over my career, is for me to give the kind of experience that I need a reviewer to have.
I have to do a lot of work ongoing throughout my workflow to be very rigorous about what things I put.
And I make very gratuitous uses of stashes.
I stash everything all the time.
And it's not great.
I don't like it.
I don't enjoy it.
Most of the time, I really, it's a frustrating experience.
But I do it to try to give the best experience for developers or for people reviewing.
And even still I end up with PRs with like too many associated changes and like too much stuff.
So when I saw Get Butler and like what you're doing.
I was like I get it immediately.
I was like, yes, yes This is exactly the thing I want.
I was like, I'm just working.
I've got a list of changes Let me like put these in a different branches and then push them up and do different PRs So I think it's it's a fantastic idea What are some of the challenges that you've had in and integrating these virtual branches so far.
Like, what is the big struggles you had with it?
Yeah, I mean, the biggest thing is we've had, I don't know, 15,000 people sign up.
So maybe 20, 25,000 people download and try it out at some point.
And that means that there's like 25,000 different repository sizes and workflows and edge cases of Git and things like that, that, you know, and there's a lot of privacy involved.
We don't want to have access to any of your data that we don't need.
And so we're kind of flying blind a lot of times when people are like, it's slow and it's like, well, there's 10, 100 reasons, 100, there's so many reasons that that could be, right?
Can you tell me a little bit more about your code base or but are there large files?
Are they untracked?
Is, you know, what's the index size?
Like, how many files do you have total?
Like, do you have a sparse checkout?
Do you have, you know, do you have submodules?
Do you have some, you know, there's so many different, is it on Windows or Linux or Mac?
Like, what file system, you know, like, like, it can be any of these things that could be slow stats or could be, you know, whatever Windows specifically is a pain in the ass, but, you know, so, and it's in Rust, right?
Like the back end, all the back end stuff is in rust.
And so, you know, we're trying to figure out like, is our file system watcher running out of I-nodes or, you know, there's just so many things when you have, when it was just us, it was very stable.
Like we were all dog fooding it, but we all have the same workflow and we all have the same code base, right?
And so when it, I think that's always the hard part, right, is trying to make sure that it runs for everybody, that it runs fast for everybody, like, get is fast and Git has been around forever and Git is incredibly stable.
And so, and Git has lots of little things that they've tried over time, right, or their Git notes, or their replacements, or something.
Like there's so many of these things.
And we, it does a GPG sign, right, when you commit, or there's just all of these different configuration options and stuff that people kind of expect us to honor.
And it's very hard to do all of those out of the gate.
So all of the, I mean, edge cases are the problem, right?
And we've been working for months since we got some attention and a lot of people really started using it of trying to fix all of the we've essentially done very little feature work in a long time that isn't related to debugging.
But, you know, God, man, the number of ways that a Git client can authenticate with a server is endless.
Like this SSH and HTTP and tokens and off headers and all my God.
Yeah, it's just all the different ways you can like you can unlock an SSH key.
Like, you know, thumb drives that are like, yeah, anyways.
So, so yeah, that's it's been super fun.
but you start with this thing and you're like, you get it to work and you're so excited, but then scaling it is always the rub.
Yeah, for sure.
So virtual branches seem to be like the main feature that you guys have tackled so far, but your docs mentions one other feature, the timeline.
So what is the timeline and how would I use it in my project?
Yeah, so there was the thing I was talking about before where we started out with this thing that was a file system watcher.
And every time it sees an I node change, right, like it would see what that file look like now, it create a CRDT, it store that.
And so we'd have sort of, and then every half an hour, hour sort of flush a sort of a keyframe of what the project looked like.
So you could technically go back to any time, anything was flush to disk, and we could recreate anything since you started watching the project.
And the project still does that actually.
If you want to, you can kind of go into our docs and find out where the data is, and you can go through and you can find there's documentation on how to recreate any of those files.
But we don't we don't show it in the interface anymore because it was we felt that it was a little bit distracting and we wanted to focus on getting this thing right and we were going to bring it back.
I think the way that that's going to come back is more of an undue log so that's kind of one of the things we're working on right now is just every time you do any major thing, drag a hunk to another lane or do a commit or you know pulling a branch or unapply a branch or whatever that we just kind of build up a history, an undue lock and you can look at it and just go go back to this point right and it just puts everything back Which is really nice because then you can mess around with stuff right and and it's kind of hard to lose anything Feel a little bit more confident So so yeah, we'll we'll bring that back Relatively soon, but I think it's gonna come back not as this very complicated timeline that that we found we weren't even using very much But more as a you know, I want to I want to undo the commit that I just did right and just have a control Z or whatever which is hard to, it's actually one of the things that people Google a lot for and get is how do I undo this thing that I did, right?
And so just having this very explicit, I can just go back to what everything looked like 10 minutes ago and hit the thing and it's all it's all back, right?
And that just goes on to the top of the stack so that you can undo that if you want to, right?
Like I find that very interesting and it's kind of interesting that that's also a rare feature in version control systems is version controlling the version control, right?
So I think that's how that's going to look.
The other thing that we've been working on, like I said, is this more jiu-jitsu type thing.
So I think we make it relatively easy to do orthogonal work, like parallel work, but dependent work is still very Git-like, right?
Like you can undo the last commit with a button, but can you undo the third commit back, right?
And sort of end up rebasing the rest, or can you insert a blank commit and then drag some stuff into that, but it's three commits down or something like that.
So I'm working on that, like I think horizontal and vertical sort of management of work, like there's work that is dependent on each other that you want to be able to manipulate your sort of commit stack and your patches, your patch manipulation, and then there's orthogonal work where this is just not related.
It doesn't matter what order these branches are merged in, and it shouldn't matter what order they're merged in, that I know they all work together, and the review process can go in any order, And it doesn't matter when it's integrated.
I'll just kind of keep it in here until I see an upstream and then it just disappears from my board, right?
And I think that's a lot of the the thing like you were talking about like you don't want to you don't want to worry But like I want to I want to take out stuff you don't want to worry about like I don't want to have to name a branch when I create the branch Right, I like this I like this material idea of anonymous branches of just being like I'm just gonna work on a different context and then I'll name it when I name it when I know what to name it, right?
Or I'll write my commit message over time.
I can start with a blank commit and write the commit message and then write the code and then like append it, like squash it into the commit.
Like that would be a nice way of doing it.
Like I don't have to wait until this very specific moment when I want to codify my work.
And now I need my whole commit message, right?
I find that's a nice thing about Jiu Jitsu is that you can kind of amend it over time and work on it as a document almost as you're working on the code.
And I think that's a much, much more interesting way of working than what we've kind of all been putting up with for a decade, right?
I want to talk about like teamwork flows a little bit.
So I mean source control is one of these things like pretty much like any other developer tool where people have a lot of opinions and some people feel very strongly about their opinions.
You know, this is like them versus them versus EMAX kind of like flame wars, uh, you know, they're definitely going to be people on teams that are not going to want to adopt your tool.
Like even if you get like a lot of people in that team, we're like, yeah, we like to use Git Butler.
We're all using it and they're going to be some people like, no, I will not.
You will pry the Git CLI from my cold dead hands.
How do you, uh, ensure that like teams can continue to work together?
Like does it still integrate with GitHub?
Like how how does the the overall team workflow happens when some people use it and some people don't.
Yeah, I mean, it's a great question.
It's one of the first things that I did.
One of my co-founder, Careel, he started a virtual system from scratch, right?
And I think the reason that that didn't work is this problem.
And I actually get about this problem too, of this sort of green field problem.
You need a whole company to move off of perforce and move on to get, right?
And it was constantly like all of the, I'd go into companies and do get training and stuff and it'd always be some small team, some green field, and then it kind of spread within the company, right?
but it has to go team by team, the whole team needs to use it.
And that's a horrible way of trying to get into, you break into a market, right?
So we design this from the outset to be like, it doesn't matter, right?
You can be the only one on the team using it.
And it's writing the same commits that anybody else is, nobody can tell that this is what you're doing.
You push it to GitHub, you can't tell the difference, right?
Like it's using a little bit to it's writing, it's writing commit, commit exactly the same way and anything else does.
And so I think that's that's very important.
What becomes interesting is when we get want to get into more team based workflows, right?
Start, start reinventing some of the review stuff or having our own hosted review stuff that's sort of pre pre GitHub, right, or something like that.
Be able to review work before you've committed it, right?
Or before you've pushed it, right?
I think that I pre-commit review would be really a valuable thing to be able to do.
But like some of the things that really are interesting to me that are completely unsolved are things like merge conflicts, right?
Like people have, it's not common, right?
I mean, it's common, but it's not what do you get merge conflicts once a week, once a month.
Like once a day, maybe, Like, if you're really on a busy team that's hitting the same files a lot, and a lot of times they're they're simple sometimes they're you know If you're working on you're if you have if you merge a lot then then they tend to be less if you're working on a feature branch for A month right then you're gonna conflict all over the place But but what's interesting about merge conflicts is in a team dynamic like it centralized version control systems You don't really have them right because things lock but in decentralized version control systems that's one of the disadvantages, but you have the advantage of just being able to have this nice clean context.
But when you do, it's so interesting to me because it's always, there's no communication, right?
They're very decentralized.
Like, even on GitHub, the branches don't know about each other.
The PRs don't know about each other.
Like, you can't, you could kind of test them all and say, this branch actually, you know, wants to merge at some point and this branch wants them, but they conflict with each other.
So this is going to be a race condition now, right?
Like, like whichever one and the weird part is whichever one hits the merge button first wins, right?
Like 100%, they have 0% of the work and the second person they hit that button has 100% of the integration work.
There's no, there's no way of solving that and so one of the things I really want to tackle at some point is having this, you know, if you're using GitBuller that the clients can communicate with each other, right?
And start saying, hey, this branch you're working on, And this doesn't merge cleanly with this other person's work in progress.
Neither of you have committed anything, but I can see already that you're working on the same file, right?
And you should probably start talking about that now, rather than three days from now when it's going to be a problem for one of you, right, whichever one's slowest.
And so there are interesting things of taking some centralized concepts and trying to be like, what was nicer about this in some way?
And can we kind of backport this into decentralized version control systems by helping them communicate a little bit, right?
Or even being able to work on conflicts in a team manner.
It'd be kind of nice for us both to see the conflicts as they're evolving and maybe comment on them and maybe say, how should we approach this?
And have some chat about it or something like that.
That's actually very difficult to do, especially if it's pre-committed.
So even if it's committed, you have to pull it down to do the merge and see the thing and then kind of reference it in Slack or whatever, like how do you even talk about merge conflicts with somebody, right?
So there's tons of stuff like that that I think that there's a lot of room for improvement in how we work together on source code and just really hasn't been addressed a lot.
So we live in an age of AI.
Do you think AI will help with merge conflicts in the future?
I see that you've been sprinkling like AI throughout the product.
Yeah, I mean AI is so interesting right like I'm curious what you guys find AI useful for I find it useful for a lot of stuff like I but very specific things like I don't I have a hard time imagining in the near future that I'm going to have a pull request description, and then some AI is going to solve it for me, right?
And be like, here's the changes to the 10 files that need to be changed in order for this to work the way that you want it to, maybe.
But like I haven't seen anything close to that, right?
Like I have a hard time getting it to write a section of a function, like really the way that I want it to, right?
But, but, you know, working in Rust for the first time, it's actually super helpful of being able to write a comment and be like, I have this, you know, sort of HashMap, and I need to turn it into like a vector of, you know, strings that are formatted in this specific way.
Like, I know there's fold and map and shit in here somewhere, but like, and then, you know, AI will kind of come in and be like, like this, and it's like, yeah, pretty close, right?
And you just kind of see what the compile errors aren't fixed one or two things.
But like, like, I find it useful for almost a replacement of documentation And so we're using it for that if you don't because this happens a lot right you you don't as part of it is because you have to write your commit message at the end.
But a lot of people don't like writing useful commit messages right descriptive commit messages and so you're like fix some stuff and you committed and you push it because you need to commit it in order to push it right and get hub sort of squashes.
is a lot of commits down into one unified diffs.
And nobody really reads the commit messages for the most part, I get a workflow anyways.
And so you don't really run into them until you blame something.
But so what we had it was just a button that says, right, my commit message for me, right?
And it just sends all the diffs out and it comes back and they're fantastic.
If you're not trying to explain why you did something and you're just trying to say, here's a one line of what happened in this patch, it's very good, right?
It can be incredibly descriptive in a in a in a good way and and we also use it for writing branch names Like like we you do an anonymous branch and then you work for a while and we see enough work And we can you can set on a toggle and we'll send it out to open AI and come back with a five word name or whatever It's like this is what this branch is doing right and you can rename it But like it's kind of nice to just have the system kind of automatically being like this is clearly what you're working on rate like this is, you know, if you if you want to stash this branch, like here's how to find it again.
It's this description for it.
So, um, so I, I, you know, we're sprinkling it in to answer your original question.
I think that AI tooling could be incredibly useful for certain types of merge conflicts.
Um, you can use them right now for I've been doing some experience with this of just sending merge conflicts to open AI or to anthropic or whatever and saying how would you solve this, right?
And it can do it sometimes, some types of, like, especially, you know, you add one class into tailwind, you know, described, like, it's in the middle of the thing or whatever.
And you're like, where it even is, like, you have to go into word diff or whatever to see what happened here and there.
AI tools or LLMs are quite good at being like, this is clearly what happened and now how to merge it together.
What I'm kind of interested in is something like GitHub's data set where, you know, they have, they And if you look at Git, any merge conflict that's ever happened in any project, in the history of Git, you can recreate, right, because the parents have you have the original parents and you can run it through the same algorithm that they would have originally run through.
And so this is almost certainly what the merge conflict look like, and you have the resolution in the merge parent, right?
And so we're in the merge object itself.
And so like you there's a database of Hundreds of millions of merge conflicts and what the resolutions are in every possible language, right?
That are all open source.
And so I think training something specifically like a small model to do just that Could be incredibly powerful, right?
It could be a very very good a sort of specific model, not instead of a general model, but I haven't, I don't really have the resources to do that yet, but I definitely see a future where there is a lot more help with merge conflicts or at least giving you the starting point of kind of what happened and where you might want to look, right, I think for really big gnarly merges it might be difficult, but certainly for small stuff can take that off you plate.
Yeah, I'm generally skeptical of AI for merge conflicts and and one of the big reasons why I say that is that There's been a lot of merge conflicts that I've had to do that I haven't had enough context as a person to resolve those And I've had to get other people involved Specifically the other person working on the other side of this and like talk about intent and and talk through It's like okay, what of this do we want to keep we both change something in a similar direction and now we have decisions to make and and it's not like, oh, we just accept this and accept this and it's fine.
It's like, no, actually, now there's more work to do.
And we've got to reconcile and do other stuff.
We had Maggie Hamilton on the podcast recently.
And she's sort of takes a stance generally against a generative AI and less it's for like summarization.
And I think the summarization use case, especially with Git Butler, I think is actually really good.
I did appreciate the auto names, branches, is an auto commit generation.
Because for a lot of people, it's just the seed of like, okay, what do I even write in this empty text box?
And if you just give them something, that's usually enough to inspire them to add more.
So I think that's good.
The other thing that I think is really interesting here is translating intent into action when maybe you don't know exactly how to do the thing that you wanna do.
And I think especially, This is especially to have true like UIs that require very specific interactions to accomplish a task.
I was doing some product research and using retool to try to build things and I was like, oh, how do I do this thing that I know how to do in their UI?
And sometimes it's just like, if you just had to like a text box, it was like, look, this is the thing I want to do, like do it for me, like show me how to, you know, do this.
Yeah, I've actually by far the most valuable thing that I've used AI for probably recently is in HECS.
It's like a data HECS dot tech, I think, is this like Jupyter and Open type, type deal.
And it writes Python, you know, pandas code for me, right?
Because I never remember, I don't do it enough to really remember off the top of my head, like, how do I manipulate this pandas, you know, data frame into into sort of the thing and then turn it into a graph that I, you know, that I want to, that I want to use.
But I know how to explain that, right?
And so I can be like, I'm trying to take this, this data frame and turn it into this, like, you know, change this field to filter it into this, whatever.
And it's like, no problem.
And it works, right?
Like hundreds, like almost a hundred percent of the time.
It is mind blowing.
How much time I've saved trying to go through pandas documentation to figure out how to do something specific writer find some examples or write some SQL for me sometimes.
So I'm relatively good at SQL.
I'm old enough that I actually had to write a lot of stuff directly in SQL and not Errol or whatever in my early days.
And so I can do a lot of a lot of SQL stuff.
But even then there's some there's some some difficult things to kind of wrap your head around.
And if you tell it, okay, I want a cohort table, like cohort stuff is a little bit difficult to do sometimes, or given up anyways.
But it'll help you write all that stuff.
So that type of thing, I think, we've been thinking about it for things like absorb classification.
So if you have a three or four commits and then you go in and you edit, you fix things that came up and review across 10 files or something, it would be really nice to hit a button that says figure out which of these commits that's each changed hunk should theoretically go into, so that I don't have to be like, okay, this goes here and this goes here, right?
AI is probably pretty good at that of being like, this is similar to these files or this is historically committed with what these two files are, historically, have changes together or they're similar.
It's obviously a test for this thing, right?
And can kind of stick it where based on the commit message and based on the file contents and the changes, just say, this most likely is classified to go into this commit, right?
So there's that type of, but all of it is, it's all, most of the stuff that we're thinking of is saving you a couple of minutes at a time.
It's not saving you hours at a time or something, but it's reducing friction in a way that you don't wanna, you wanna work on the code, you don't wanna work on whatever you don't wanna work on.
I do think that there's this interesting idea that there's like a new paradigm of API where we build GUI products to give a very specific type of workflow to the user and sort of direct them and guide them into doing specific actions that we translate down into machine operations that are more complex or prepackage or something.
And, you know, a lot of times it was like, give an API to our product.
So it's like, oh, well, you can't necessarily do this in your UI.
We just haven't prioritized it.
It's like not there yet.
Like, we have these APIs. You know, you use a REST API and you do this thing.
There's a lot of non-technical people are like not technical enough or don't have enough time.
We don't care enough to do the thing.
But there's this interesting idea of like having this internal API that's there that in LLM can just like integrate and use.
And it's like, oh, well, you want to do this thing?
Yeah, I can do this thing for you.
and is like internally do this stuff without them having to like make a bunch of API calls or whatever.
I think this is like interesting use case for the future of like AI integration into our products.
Yeah, there's there's you know in the version control world the other the other interesting thing that that we've been looking at and trying to figure out you know what do we if we had to go from first principles on a on a toolset a lot of the archaeology tools and get I think I haven't been, you know, it would be interesting to rethink them, right?
And I think AP or AI can possibly play a big part in that.
Like, you know, explain this function to me, right?
Or something like that, right?
Where it could go through all of the commits that modified that, like, when it was moved from this file to this file, when it was restructured, take out white space changes.
Like, you know, you can do get blame, dash, you know, capital C three times, dash L range, whatever.
Like, if you know how to do all that, And then you get the last one and then they're like walking back through, okay, tell me the story about or you know Even having access to slack conversations or you know engineering, you know Converse or GitHub issues or whatever like what's all the context around this tell me tell me you know What is the story of this of this function right?
So because I want to edit it And I don't know why it doesn't work the way that that we want or I don't want to not break something right like was there Sentry stuff involved in the last time this was you know edited or whatever.
I don't know like like it's interesting to think about about what we use some of our version of tools to answer, and if they're actually good at answering those questions, or if they're the only tool we have to answer those questions, and so we're fine with whatever we're given, right?
But I think AI could be really good at that, of being able to do these more free form questions about your code or about the history, or about what you're trying to do, or about who to talk to about something, right?
And so I'm excited about that, but we kind of have to, we're tackling like one section of the world the version control tools or of what Git does for us at a time, and it's interesting at every point to be like, is there anything that AI can be good at?
That otherwise seems like a slog.
That's what I find people find the most valuable, right?
It can be cute or whatever, and there's some applications that you'll use it, and it's like, wow, it's interesting.
It can do this, but it's not really helping me that much.
It's just kind interesting and there's other stuff that's super interesting like I really love how how much less I have to dig through documentation sites with you know crappy search indices when instead I can just ask chat GPT how would you do this right and and a lot of time or even just like I said right the comment in the code and have co-pilot be like is it this right and it's like that course that's That's very close, right?
And it's kind of like what you said.
It's not that I'm using the, the GitBuller AI commit message thing to write my commit message, but sometimes I'm just using it to remind myself what I did, right?
Because it gives me a nice summary, and it's like, oh yeah, though that is largely what I, but I'll put my own flavor into it, right?
Or my own insight, right?
But it kind of helps me not have to go through 50 Difts, right?
And be like, what was I doing here?
Yeah, I'm excited to see what else you guys do with AI in the future.
But wrapping up the conversation here, we usually like to ask a future face and question of our guest and for you I think the question is obvious.
What do you think the future of version control is and the future of sharing code?
Yeah, boy, that's a really great question.
I you know, I don't even know if this is a good answer to this.
My question actually about this that I'm most concerned about is where software development gets done in what time frame?
Because there are tools like code spaces or get pod or something like that where there's kind of a bet in taking software development into the cloud and having our laptops be thin clients and we're all kind of, I don't have to have a $3,000 Mac or whatever to get stuff done.
I can have a Chromebook, but I feel like that promise has been around for a while and every time that I've tried to do it, even though I'm very excited about it, I've found to very, very frustrating, very difficult.
And it depends on the type of software that you're doing as well, right?
And I think the proliferation of all of these technologies that people do use and love and stuff makes it even harder, because it has to work well for sort of all of them, right?
And so we're building a desktop app.
So we're kind of betting on people are still developing on the desktop, right?
Like it doesn't, if everybody moves the code spaces, it's gonna be a little bit difficult to move our tool set there.
But I'm curious, right?
Like, I feel like this has been a constant possibility.
It's just been very difficult to do.
And yeah, I'm fascinated with what the future of software development is going to be.
And AI changes a lot of this as well, right?
Like, is it going to get good enough where I can say here's what I want?
And it can write 100,000 versions of it and test all of them and give me the three that that seem to work the best, which is not what it does right now, but what it theoretically could do.
It is very parallelizable.
Do we have different programming languages that are good at what AI's good at?
AI's writing software in frameworks and languages that were designed for human beings and have the things that human beings are bad at designed into it to be better at.
And so, you know, and it's trained on that and it can regurgitate that, but like, you know, you could theoretically design programming languages that was much better at what, you know, what an LLM is good at producing and massively testing in parallel, right?
Like human beings can't do that.
And so nothing's designed for that.
So I'm, you know, I think we're in a really interesting space where none of us really have a good idea and we kind of, you know, year to year, month to month kind of have to figure out what could be possible in a year or five years.
But I think at the end of the day, what's really important about our jobs, about software development, is having taste in what the end user has.
I'm trying to make tools to make that process easier to get out of your brain and do.
But just like you can build great software in and react even though I hate it.
You can build great software in Svelte.
You can build great software in Ruby, even on lots of people hate it, right?
Like there's, you can have these wars, but it doesn't, in the end of the day, Scala or whatever you choose, who gives a shit, right?
Like what matters is, is this good, does this solve somebody's problem?
And so I think like that, AI will be a good way of generating software, but you have to have a good idea, right?
You have to have good taste on what that needs to do for people, for human beings.
and I think that's going to be difficult to get out of the process, which is exciting to me.
The future is fuzzy, but we'll get there.
That wraps it up for our questions this episode.
Thanks for coming on, Scott.
This was a super interesting conversation about the history of Git Hub and what you're doing with Git Butler.
Thanks for coming on.
Yeah, thank you for having me.
It's been great.
Yeah, thanks, Scott.
I really enjoy Git Butler a lot.
It's been really fun to work with.
I'm not working.
I'm not using it as much right now because I'm just started to start up with a friend of mine and We're using some modules a ton like more than I've ever used some modules So when you have some modules before you let me know I know I'll get back on the track We haven't started to tackle that that that's a beast We've we've we just wrote in a thing we got so many probably just wrote in a thing It's like if you see to get modules just stop Yeah, I know I know cuz it like suddenly didn't work for me anymore.
I was like wait, what happened?
And anyway, yeah, but it's fantastic work.
I'm really excited about the future of what you're doing there.
I think it's very needed in the space.
So thanks for working on it.
Can I plug something as well?
Yeah, please.
Yeah, so like I mentioned at the beginning of this, we're putting on a developer experience.
So there's a lot of things I've been learning doing a new developer tools company.
And so I've talked to a bunch of people that have been in space a lot about, how do you do marketing now?
Why didn't it's been 10 years since I, or how do you open source a project in a nice way or engage the community or whatever, right?
And so I decided it'd be kind of fun.
Like the GitBuller staff has been like, okay, I've been talking at all these conferences.
So we decided to put on our own conference to just do this.
So it's not like a GitBuller conference.
It's just us organizing a bunch of interesting people that are doing stuff in the developer experience and developer tools world.
And it's in Berlin in June 13th and 14th, I believe.
and you can go to merge.berlin.
If you are interested in coming or talking to me about any of this stuff, obviously I'll be there.
It's gonna be a super great time.
So if you're in Europe or you wanna, or you wanna an excuse to go to Berlin, please come and join and, you know, we have people from, actually Adam Wiggins who we talked about before speaking at the conference and a bunch of people from Hashtag Corp and from Microsoft and GitHub and everything.
So yeah, it'll be great time.
Please join us and that's my point.
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And it was like if we had the taste that kind of went into the tools that we did and sort of, you know, usability and going to first principles and thinking about what are we really trying to do with this set of tools, right?
Like what would GitHub possibly have created?
Hello, welcome to the DevTools.fm podcast.
This podcast about developer tools and the people will make them.
I'm Andrew and this is my co-host, Justin.
Hey everyone.
Today we're really excited to introduce Scott Chicone.
So Scott is a co-founder of GitHub.
You also co-founded Chatterbox and now you are working on a product called Get Butler, which I am super excited about.
Scott, thank you so much for joining us.
Before we start talking about the things that you've worked on, would you like to tell our listeners a little bit more about yourself?
Oh, that's a pretty good overview of places that I've worked there.
Yeah, no, I live in in Berlin as well.
So I used to live in the Bay area, but but so, you know, a lot of my I do I have done a little bit of angel investing through a company called scene.
And so, but yeah, at the end of the day, I'm a startup guy.
So I think I'm going to be working at startups until I'm kicked the bucket at some point.
That's cool.
Is Chatterbug still running?
I wasn't sure what the exact status of that.
Yeah, so Chatterbug, you know, we raised, we kind of did the, you know, when you raise money in sort of a VC setting, you can either kind of go bigger, go home.
It didn't really get to the point where we could raise another round, but I had personally invested a lot of money into it, and we had raised kind of too much for it to be able to exit really.
And so we kind of spun it down.
It was profitable, right, like if there was almost nobody working at it.
So we kind of spun it down, like it's still running, it runs by, it's essentially just runs by itself and makes some profit.
And so one of the guys that used TJ that used to work at Chatterbug sort of took it over and just runs it essentially by himself.
So there's still tons and tons of people that are learning languages and using Chatterbug on a daily basis.
But I decided that I should probably spend my time working on something else.
Nice, yeah.
That makes me think of Muse, Adam Wiggins, most recent project.
They had a similar sort of thing, it's just like realizing it's like, okay, to get the sort of like size of audience that we want, we're not really going to be able to reach that with this.
So they did the same thing and like spun it down to like a small minimal.
I think there's a solo person who's like sort of maintaining the project and moving it forward now.
Yeah, actually, it's funny.
I just talked to Adam about that he lives in Berlin as well like we kind of have similar journeys and we just had had a meeting the other day.
He's coming out to the conference that we're putting on called the merge in Berlin in a couple months and so I'll be talking to him about some of that stuff too which I'm looking forward to.
Yeah, Adam's great.
Cool, so let's maybe dive right into it.
So, you know, GitHub has been obviously very tremendously influential and impactful on the development industry at large.
I mean, it's hard to think about, like, pre-git hub days and how gnarly just centralized source control, like having some place to go to download code was.
So how did the idea for GitHub start?
And did you ever think it was going to be as big as it is today?
Yeah, I mean, it's funny now, I've been, you know, now that I'm back in working on developer tools, I've been speaking at some conferences again about version control or sort of software development, and I'm realizing I've been out of, you know, I've been working in this language learning thing for seven years now before that, since I left GitHub.
And now there's a whole generation of software developers who have never used anything other than getting GitHub, like they, you know, they never use subversion.
They never, they learn get in college, right?
And it's such a, such a strange, like, this just wasn't my mentality.
Like, when I first started, you know, working on GitHub, I was going around trying to teach people, like, trying to convince them, you should use get because it's better than subversion.
And here's why, right?
Or better than perforce.
And here's why.
And look at how cool branching is.
And now, like, it's almost the opposite of trying to, trying to be like, it doesn't have to be like this, right?
Like, there, or there was a time when there were options and there were pluses and minuses.
Yeah, I mean, essentially it started because, because Git was coming up, I mean, there was this whole era, I'm sure you guys probably remember this where everybody was using subversion in open source for the most part, or CVS, right, if you just didn't want to take the leap because it wasn't really a big enough difference for you.
Or you're in a corporate environment, you'd be using perfor, so you'd be using clear case or, you know, whatever.
And then this explosion of these cool distributed virtual systems all came out kind of at the same time, right?
There was like bizarre and material and darks and and get and and at the time, like none of us really knew what was going to win.
We are, I think everybody was kind of trying them out if you were kind of on the edge, right?
And you're like, let's see if this is a little be cooler, or a little bit better for what I'm trying to do.
And the open source in my world, the Ruby world, we all moved to get, but that wasn't true for everybody.
Some communities went down the Mercurial route or whatever, and there was a lot of competition between these groups.
And I find that so interesting.
It was so much fun to be in that world.
But there Like we knew each other from Ruby meetups in San Francisco and Tom and Chris started working on GitHub and kind of, you know, I knew Git really well.
I had written a book on Git because I had learned it for something else I was doing.
And so, you know, I like to document stuff and try to help the next person that comes behind me.
That's just something fun for me to do.
And so, you know, we kind of got together because I actually really knew Git very well.
And they just liked Git a lot and kind of wanted to, you know, make a host that was better than some guy in Lithuania or whatever that had like repo.org.cz or whatever the hosting solution was at the time.
So that's kind of how it was scratch your own H type thing in the early days.
And I love the idea of sort of working in developer tools and so that's how it got started.
And to answer your last question, very provably none of us thought it would be a big deal.
We even talked to VCs in the early days, and they were telling us, you know, the total market cap of all of this type of developer tooling would be like a hundred million dollars, right?
And I think we sold it up for seven billion dollars.
It was completely ridiculous, right?
They clearly didn't.
None of us knew what this could be.
And we were all So, surprised by it, and most of my time at GitHub, I think, was taken up by us trying to handle steering a rocket ship that, you know, kind of took off much faster than any of us expected.
And it was a hell of a time, but definitely not expected.
So, in the early days, I thought that you wrote the git book after you guys mounted GitHub, but you wrote it before.
So, can you tell us about like why you did that and some of the fun things you learned along the way while writing it?
Yeah, so actually, it's a little, a little confusing.
I wrote a book.
I actually worked on the Git community book, which was kind of the documentation that was around the Git community at the time.
I helped augment that.
And then I wrote from scratch a peep code PDF.
If you guys remember peep code that you can still find online, it was open source after peep code was acquired.
And then I started work on APRESS approach me about the Pro Git book and so the real sort of publisher that you know, the Git book that you would read on, on gssm.com right now, that's creative comments, dual licensed.
And so I started that after I started working at GitHub.
I was there for about a year probably before I started that project.
But yeah, so I've written a lot a lot of stuff on get the before that was the the peak code one though.
So so I'd I'd been I have no no end of interest in documenting and talking about get apparently.
But yeah, to go back to your other question, like what you learn, right?
I think anytime that you write a book, you learn mostly what you don't know, right?
Like I was pretty good at Git and I knew Git really well and I could, you know, describe the sort of object database and stuff like that.
There's tons of stuff that I didn't know, right?
Like I never really used submodules professionally or I never done like sub-tree merging or there was all this stuff that it could do and I knew it could do it and I knew theoretically that it was capable of doing it And then I'd have to kind of teach my, I'd have to give myself, you know, like a challenge, right, and see if I could solve it and then see if I could document the solution to it and then help somebody else.
And I always felt very kind of crappy about those parts of the book, because it's like I've never really used, you know, I try constantly now to talk to people that have different workflows and try to get an idea of, you know, I kind of want to sit over their shoulder and be like, what, how do you use this and what is frustrating about it and what is good about it, right?
Like, we'll, we'll end up talking about, get bothered at some point, but that's a lot of what I'm trying to do with that as well as be like, I know what my workflow is, like I know how I use these tools and I know kind of some of the designs that but like, you know, there's so much you don't know if you try to write a comprehensive book about something about anything and it's very humbling.
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Yeah, our past sponsor code crafters has this course where you build your own Git from scratch and so many different things that I built during that course just blew my mind.
The first being that Git started without being a version control system and was really this lower level set of utilities you were supposed to build your own version control system on.
It's like when I learned that, I was like, oh, I see Git Butler, it was just like the idea there was just like calling to be made.
Yeah, actually, it's surprising that fewer version control systems have really done that, right?
Like, there's nothing that kind of has Git as the object database or the transport mechanism, right, of just saying, here's how to get trees from A to B, which is, like you said, if you look at the first commit and Git, right, you can compile that C code and you can write stuff that's still generally readable by Git now, and the commands are a little obtuse, but it still does essentially what Git does, right?
And there wasn't, you know, essentially, like the one guy, I forget what his name is, started writing some Perl scripts, you know, to kind of automate some of this, and then that just kind of got turned into the porcelain stuff, right?
But it hasn't really been modified that much since then, and more more incredibly to me, nobody's come out with a GUI that doesn't just wrap all those commands, that comes up with some completely different way of doing it and just writes that database out, which is completely doable, which is mostly what we're doing.
It's easier now with us because we're using LiveGit 2, there's some libraries and stuff, you don't have to fork exec out everything, but yeah, I mean, it's all a database and then tools on top of it and you don't have to use those tools in order to use that database, right?
But, but it hasn't really been done a lot since then.
It is really interesting how like, I mean, obviously Git has won the sort of decentralized source control wars.
And, you know, it brings a lot of like incredible power to the developer.
And it's been a great tool, but it feels like of the tools in our tool chain that we rely on so much.
It kind of shows, it's like there are definitely some words that like people are more and more aware of.
And especially if you have like younger engineers who this is like as you mentioned earlier, this is all they know.
And they get into it and they're like, oh god, I messed up.
What do I do?
You teach them about like reflog or something.
And there's like, there's a lot of overhead to just the workflow and the UX that's there.
I remember having conversations with some colleagues a little bit earlier in my career and they were like really die hard on the curial because they thought that the, there's just UX of Maccurial, like how you interact with Maccurial was a better experience, like the kind of commands that you had.
And even more recently, when I was at Oxide, there's people talking about the, there's this tool called JJ, which is another, yeah, exactly, Jiu Jitsu being...
I, if, you know, if you're listening to this podcast and you're interested in, in version control tools, I would definitely say check out Jiu Jitsu because it's, in my opinion, the most interesting, other than GitBuller, obviously.
But it's the most interesting thing going on and let's say command line version control tools, right?
Because they have kind of done this, right?
They do have Git as this backend that they're writing objects into.
And so it is compatible fully with you.
You push it to GitHub, you can't tell that you're using something that's not Git, right?
But they do the user interface as much, much just the whole approach to how they put patches together and how they do commits, right?
You have to relearn stuff a little bit, but it's totally fascinating.
You just say, I want a new workspace, and that essentially commits the last one, and there's no index.
It's just your working directories kind of what your next commit is going to look like.
It's a slightly different shift, but it changes the way that you approach your work in a very interesting manner.
right where it's essentially a much better rebasing tool, right?
Like rebasing is so powerful, but it's such a pain to use.
And they've really been like, what can we, how can we get what is interesting about rebasing, but make it very, very easy to use and really encourage that style of workflow?
And actually, it's funny just today, actually, this week I've been working a lot on trying to get a lot of those things into GitBuller and allow you to work in that in that manner, right, like opening up a commit, five commits back and taking a file or a hunk out of a file, you committed there and dragging it, three commits up and having it automatically rebase everything, so that it looks like you're just kind of moving changes around your commits, right?
And letting you kind of do this patch-centric sort of workflow.
But yeah, to go back to your point, right, there are really interesting things that you can do in what we're all trying to do, which is really put together a group of changes that is documented so that if you look at it later, you understand why those changes were done together or reviewable, right?
By whatever review system that you're using and kind of combining them into commits is a nice, can be a nice way of doing that.
But yeah, I, I, I, jujitsu was very exciting to me.
And, and, you know, even, even the other way, like I just had beers with the material, the guys who took over Mercurial development but recently, and the guy, I forget what his name is, that does Pujol, which is sort of the Darks 2.0 theory of Patch's thing, and they're all passionate about version control tools, right?
And there's a small set of us nerds, the version control nerds, that sit down and have beers and kind of argue over what style is better, is really fascinating.
But at the end of the day, developers just want to do their work and kind of have it be as easy as possible and be able to communicate that and transfer that as easily as possible.
And none of the tools are really very focused on that.
And I think it could be very different.
I want to move on to talk about Git Butler.
But before we do, I have one question for you about GitHub and its legacy.
So the pull-acres model is something that I contribute to GitHub is it's kind of changed how a lot of people think about contributing to a Git codebase, you know, specifically through GitHub.
But there is this one thing that I've heard repeatedly about the sort of side effects of how pull requests work.
So you create a pull request, you have a branch and you create a pull request from that branch and you've got a lot of code committed and then people come in and review it.
So it's like, there's almost this encourage to like review later in the process.
Um, and the other thing is it's like, this is just, you know, a part of Git.
And again, I think this is T off our conversation with Git Butler.
But like, poor requests tend to get larger over time, like bigger because it's like harder to break those things down.
I've heard a lot of people wishing there were things like stacked PRs, like you could do that easier.
Um, and I mean, I feel like a lot of this is, you You know, just derived from the primitives of the pull request, you know, that legacy of like how GitHub introduced how we merged changes into a code basic.
Can you think about like, or can you talk about like how y'all are thinking about that originally and how you're thinking on it has maybe evolved over time and like where we landed out with that?
Yeah, I mean, originally, you know, we were, you know, in the early, early days, the pull request was just an email that said, here's how to run the Git pull command locally so so that you can fetch a branch down and merge it into whatever branch that you're in.
And so it would just be an email that said, run this command line thing, and then that will pull this reference and merge it, and you can test it.
And if you like it, you can push it back to yours, right?
And so it didn't really have this interface, and it didn't have this sort of unified diff that the pull request interface has now, which I think is kind of part of what the problem set is of how people have changed.
because in the early days, you know, pull requests was really just an easier way of sending a series of patches, right?
But you could still sort of rebase your stuff or sort of squash work together or something and kind of work on a series of patches.
Like if you think about the mailing list, right, or how you would communicate over a mailing list, even with Git today, if you want to contribute to Git or to Linux kernel or something, and you used Git to do this, a lot of the really tools were developed to send series of patches of email.
And so every commit message is the email body, right?
And then and then it sort of has this diff that's that's associated with it that you can you can pull into an inbox, pull out of an inbox and apply and stuff.
But like everybody's thinking about commits as you send it to the mailing list, and it's just a thread of like three emails, right?
And they're they're they're reviewed as commits, not as a unified diff of all of the commits in the branch sort of squashed into into squashing it, squashed out.
And so how GitHub evolved was trying to make that process easier and like more, more, because it's very hard to send patches over email.
If you've ever tried to do it without fucking it up, it's incredibly difficult to do right.
If you're not just living out of inbox all the time, right?
And so if you use Gmail and you want to contribute a patch to Git, it's very hard to do properly without getting yelled at.
And so we wanted to make that accessible because it was really, we wanted to make Git usable for people and to collaborate and open source and stuff.
So in making it easy, what we did was make it so that if somebody gives you some review and you want to fix a bug, what's easiest is to fix the bug and then you do a new commit because now you don't have to learn, not everybody has to learn how to be a rebase master, right, which you otherwise have to.
You have to be very, very good at sort of all of that that rebasing type and interactive rebasing and stopping and amending something and squashing and all that.
And we wanted to not have that be a barrier, right?
You could just use Git for everything that it's really good at.
And for collaboration, who cares, right?
Like just add the thing that fixes it, but it breaks blame and it breaks a lot of stuff and it makes it makes review really difficult because we didn't do review it on a per commit basis, right?
We're doing it on this unified div basis.
And so I think there's, you know, there's sort of pluses and minuses to that to that process.
I think that there is space for some sort of review system that is more patch-based.
What StackDiffs really try to do is bring back this concept of reviewing on a commit basis, and the way that they do it is by throwing several branch pointers into a branch.
Essentially, every commit has its own branch, and then they're all based on each other so that you can review them.
But really, you know, you just want to review kind of one committed at a time or be good at, you know, have everybody be good at rebasing.
So, so, you know, I think that there's something in between that.
We, I think the, the, the future, like what would be really nice with some combination of these things, right?
Where you can, you can have something online, it can have a nice review process, it can be on a per commit basis.
I think stack diffs is just a way of, of getting around how, what GitHub's interface is rather than that's really how you you want to review stuff, right?
So, but in the end of the day, what you really want is do you want the reviewers job to be easier than your, like, if your tools are easy, you really want the reviewers job to be easy because you don't want them to come into some massive unified diff and there's issues with that as well.
Like, everything's in alphabetical order, right?
Like, like, if you want to test a file or you want to review a file and then the test, test that file and they're at complete opposite ends of the unified diff.
It's really frustrating.
You want more of a story of, here's what happened and so, you know, sending patches, having a nice patch series and sending to a mailing list kind of gives you that story in a more reviewable way, I think.
But GitHub, it's difficult to do that way, right?
So you have graphite or you have fabricator, you have these tools that kind of help do both, right?
Be in the GitHub world, but also do review in a way that's a little bit more approachable for larger sets or for if you want to learn in your history or something.
I don't know if I've really answered your question rather than drawn on a bit, but I think there's still room in the world for a much better review system if we have tools that help make rebasing easier.
If you're using Gijitsu and that is everybody's using that or if you're using hopefully GitBuller makes that easier at some point and you're more worried about what is my patch series look like and you have review tools that are good at reviewing those types of you know things that are rebased a lot like force pushing to get up branches is a pain for everybody right like like so you have to have something that kind of helps mitigate that but but if you do if the tools make that easy and if the review sort of has I think splitting up review into commits or being able to tell more of a story with your with your history would be much, much better way of collaborating.
Yeah, I am so surprised that anything got done back in the email patch days.
Like, I've very much grown up in the, like, get basically only, like, I used a little bit of perforce when I was in intern, but like, doing that over email just seems like an impossible task to me.
Yeah, it's fascinating.
It's fascinating to look at that, at that, like, you know, I've been trying to kind of learn, like I said, what people's workflows are, and it's really interesting workflow, right?
It's very different than sort of the GitHub workflow, and it has pluses and minuses.
But like some of the, you know, it's interesting to see, you know, V10 of a series or something, right?
Where you can see the previous versions in the previous comments and what was addressed and, you know, sort of it gives you this nice story.
And it's, again, this one sort of email per commit.
So you can just look at the ones that you're interested in if you want.
Just, I'm, you know, I'm the front end event.
I'm just going to look at the front end commit or whatever, right?
And it's specifically documented.
And you can kind of inline comment in the patch, right?
Like it's really, it has power that you lose with using GitHub PRs. And again, it's much harder to use, right?
So you have to have this high bar for everyone to come in on it, which is not necessarily a good thing either, right?
But yeah, some middle ground, I think, would be interesting in the future.
So now that we've talked about all things get in version control, you have a new app, a new thing built on top of Git called Git butler, so could you explain to us what Git butler is and how it makes the Git workflow better?
Yeah, so when I left chat a bug and we were thinking about what to do, I really kind of got into this version control quite obviously.
I have a lot of opinions on it.
I'm very interested in it.
You know, my background is all sort of in GitHub.
And I thought it would be interesting to try to, that if GitHub had decided, that let's write our own version control system, right?
And it was like if we had the taste that kind of went into the tools that we did and sort of usability and going to first principles and thinking about what are we really trying to do with this set of tools, right?
Like what would GitHub possibly have created?
Like what would a client that, because GitHub's always kind of pushed that off to the open source community and said, and then they contribute to it, and Microsoft contributes to it a lot today, but not really in a user interface way, right?
We're not there's no tearing it down and saying let's pretend like we owned this whole sphere, right?
And what could be possible there?
And I found that question really, really interesting of just challenging myself of what preconceptions do I have about version control that are based on Git because I've been using it for 15 years now, right?
And I hardly remember how to use anything else.
So it was kind of a fun mental exercise.
And so we started this company and started building tools and went off in one complete direction that we've essentially totally abandoned and found something that sticks a lot.
We were trying, I was trying to do the first, sorry if I go with a little thing here, but what I was, the first thing that we were going around was I wanted a version control system that doesn't lose my work, right?
Like you can lose your work and get, you can mess up stuff.
And but I was trying to think of other systems that do version control types of things right and I thought a lot about Google Docs and and how Google Docs does version control but in a massively different way than think it does and and Started thinking about like what are the what are the advantages and disadvantages of that right?
There's you can't fork it and go in different direction and and there's no forking and but on the other hand there's no merging And there's no losing work and there's no committing right like it just constantly is looking at what you're doing and it's saving versions and you can always go back to stuff, so there's interesting aspects of that, and I thought it would be nice if get just had some, you know, Damon in the background that was saving CRDTs of your work all the time, so you never lose anything, right?
And just synchronizing it to the cloud somewhere, so you can just move over to another computer and turn on the client and you get your working directory that you had over there, right?
Like, you don't have to commit in order to push something over the wire.
And I found that really, and we built that out and we built a little timeline where you can go back and see what you know what what and we found it it just wasn't very useful right like like it's useful if you lose work but you lose work what like once a month right and it really sucks but but you know it we we wanted something that was more daily practical and so started looking at branches and and tearing that down and being like what do we really use branches for and so right now what mostly get Butler does is branch management and because we came up with this idea of virtual branches of saying you know if I'm working on something and I see a bug like right now and get get can only have one context at a time and so you have to you know everybody's done this a million times right like you're working on some feature and you really deep into it and you see something you want to fix like documentation or bug or something small and you're like I can either stash everything I have right or do a work in progress commit or whatever start a new branch fix the thing push it up try to get it integrated cherry pick it in whatever right like it becomes kind of this this this issue and it's annoying all the time.
And so what most people do is they'll, they'll just fix it in that branch, right?
And be like, it'll probably get integrated when this branch get, I'm sure it's fine, right?
Like, even though it's, it's orthogonal, you, you put it in, in one context because it's easy.
It's, you have to essentially be in one context at a time.
And I was trying to figure out why that was, right?
There's no particular reason, it's only because of the design of, of the index in the head, right?
That, that get can only really be on one branch at a time.
There's no reason that you couldn't say for every entry in the index, say, this goes to branch A and this goes to branch B, or whatever.
And so that's essentially what we do is we run, I get diff between this upstream version, so origin master, origin main, or whatever you want to eventually integrate into.
And then it diffs, you're working directory and says, here's all the punks that I see that are different.
Here's everything I see that's not integrated.
So by definition, this is a branch, right?
And you don't have to create it and you don't have to name it.
It's just, it's kind of like anonymous branching, gives you a context, and then if you want to hunk to be in another branch, you just sort of drag it in the GUI over into another lane and it says, okay, that's a branch.
And then when you commit it, it just essentially takes, you know, the base that you have and applies all the patches that are bookmarked for that and creates a tree and creates a commit and pushes it off to GitHub and just kind of keeps them separate, right?
So you can keep committing and working in multiple contexts at the same time.
and we just sort of the smart index kind of keeps them all in memory separated and tries to remember what goes where so that the next commit it writes a tree out as though that was the only thing there right so that when you review it and when you merge it and the nice thing is you're kind of doing the opposite you're starting with a working direct let's say you do a whole bunch of work and then you you you take them and you you take all your work and you drag it into three different branches and commit them and push them the nice thing is you know that they all merge cleanly because you essentially started out with the merge product, and then you extracted them into separate branches, right?
So once they're all merged, the tree is going to look like whatever the working director you started with when you extracted.
And so that's kind of nice, right?
Because you can take in other people's remote branches and sort of apply them as virtual branches that sit alongside the work you're doing and say, okay, these things, this is what would happen.
And Git actually does like if you look at GitMain and say something like Junio will do this or Linux kernel, they'll merge in like 10 branches into one big octopus merge and then try out everything and then unroll it again because they want to see if they all kind of work together.
But it's too much of a pain for most people to do and so most people don't do that even though Git is fine with that.
But not everybody wants the rollback stuff or have these merge products that are all over their code base or whatever.
So people tend not to do it but it's totally doable.
And so yeah, so we made this gooey, I thought it'd be nice to start with a gooey and try to figure out is there a way of, you know, making a drag and drop type thing that can be a very powerful tool for for managing information, but, but every gooey that's been built on Git just does stuff that Git does and just kind of fork execs out stuff.
and so usually it's faster to just write it on the command line if you know what to do, right?
And so we wanted to be like, is there ways of like, you can't have multiple branches and get, so like simultaneously applied.
And so we were like, let's still goo in, you can just drag a hunk over, right?
I don't have to list them out and do a number and say, move it to this branch or whatever.
You can just drag stuff.
And so, so yeah, we started building that on Intori.
So now I'm a Rust developer, which is, you know, I should never be let anywhere near a systems language, but I do do a lot of Rust work now.
But it's been super, super interesting to build out just sort of this vision of how would I want branches to work.
And it is quite complex in how we're actually building these trees and applying patches and figuring out communication and all this stuff.
But we need to make it look very easy.
And so it's a really fun challenge.
And GitHub was very much the same.
Like I think everything strives for simplicity and make it as easy as possible to do what you want to do in the background.
It can be incredibly complicated.
And I find those really, really fun projects.
Yeah, that's awesome.
There's a lot to unpack there.
To go back to where you started, sort of like the first thing you explored, I do want to give a shout out to the Ink and Switch team, Adam Wiggins and Co. They're working on this project called Patchwork, which is like a universal source control for everything.
They're kind of just trying to figure out like, What are universal source control patterns like if you're just like trying to integrate You know source control type work flows into your app like how would you do that?
And they have a really interesting research Paper that they're working on for that.
I'll link that in the show notes This this idea of virtual branches though when I first saw get Butler I've seen this this idea of virtual branches and it clicked with me immediately because I actually like But branches are kind of my bane and get, because the thing is, I am doing work and I don't care what branch I'm in when I'm doing the work.
I really don't care, I don't want to think about it.
I'm doing things and I know that I need certain things to be in certain PRs and the big problem is, and I've had this over my career, is for me to give the kind of experience that I need a reviewer to have.
I have to do a lot of work ongoing throughout my workflow to be very rigorous about what things I put.
And I make very gratuitous uses of stashes.
I stash everything all the time.
And it's not great.
I don't like it.
I don't enjoy it.
Most of the time, I really, it's a frustrating experience.
But I do it to try to give the best experience for developers or for people reviewing.
And even still I end up with PRs with like too many associated changes and like too much stuff.
So when I saw Get Butler and like what you're doing.
I was like I get it immediately.
I was like, yes, yes This is exactly the thing I want.
I was like, I'm just working.
I've got a list of changes Let me like put these in a different branches and then push them up and do different PRs So I think it's it's a fantastic idea What are some of the challenges that you've had in and integrating these virtual branches so far.
Like, what is the big struggles you had with it?
Yeah, I mean, the biggest thing is we've had, I don't know, 15,000 people sign up.
So maybe 20, 25,000 people download and try it out at some point.
And that means that there's like 25,000 different repository sizes and workflows and edge cases of Git and things like that, that, you know, and there's a lot of privacy involved.
We don't want to have access to any of your data that we don't need.
And so we're kind of flying blind a lot of times when people are like, it's slow and it's like, well, there's 10, 100 reasons, 100, there's so many reasons that that could be, right?
Can you tell me a little bit more about your code base or but are there large files?
Are they untracked?
Is, you know, what's the index size?
Like, how many files do you have total?
Like, do you have a sparse checkout?
Do you have, you know, do you have submodules?
Do you have some, you know, there's so many different, is it on Windows or Linux or Mac?
Like, what file system, you know, like, like, it can be any of these things that could be slow stats or could be, you know, whatever Windows specifically is a pain in the ass, but, you know, so, and it's in Rust, right?
Like the back end, all the back end stuff is in rust.
And so, you know, we're trying to figure out like, is our file system watcher running out of I-nodes or, you know, there's just so many things when you have, when it was just us, it was very stable.
Like we were all dog fooding it, but we all have the same workflow and we all have the same code base, right?
And so when it, I think that's always the hard part, right, is trying to make sure that it runs for everybody, that it runs fast for everybody, like, get is fast and Git has been around forever and Git is incredibly stable.
And so, and Git has lots of little things that they've tried over time, right, or their Git notes, or their replacements, or something.
Like there's so many of these things.
And we, it does a GPG sign, right, when you commit, or there's just all of these different configuration options and stuff that people kind of expect us to honor.
And it's very hard to do all of those out of the gate.
So all of the, I mean, edge cases are the problem, right?
And we've been working for months since we got some attention and a lot of people really started using it of trying to fix all of the we've essentially done very little feature work in a long time that isn't related to debugging.
But, you know, God, man, the number of ways that a Git client can authenticate with a server is endless.
Like this SSH and HTTP and tokens and off headers and all my God.
Yeah, it's just all the different ways you can like you can unlock an SSH key.
Like, you know, thumb drives that are like, yeah, anyways.
So, so yeah, that's it's been super fun.
but you start with this thing and you're like, you get it to work and you're so excited, but then scaling it is always the rub.
Yeah, for sure.
So virtual branches seem to be like the main feature that you guys have tackled so far, but your docs mentions one other feature, the timeline.
So what is the timeline and how would I use it in my project?
Yeah, so there was the thing I was talking about before where we started out with this thing that was a file system watcher.
And every time it sees an I node change, right, like it would see what that file look like now, it create a CRDT, it store that.
And so we'd have sort of, and then every half an hour, hour sort of flush a sort of a keyframe of what the project looked like.
So you could technically go back to any time, anything was flush to disk, and we could recreate anything since you started watching the project.
And the project still does that actually.
If you want to, you can kind of go into our docs and find out where the data is, and you can go through and you can find there's documentation on how to recreate any of those files.
But we don't we don't show it in the interface anymore because it was we felt that it was a little bit distracting and we wanted to focus on getting this thing right and we were going to bring it back.
I think the way that that's going to come back is more of an undue log so that's kind of one of the things we're working on right now is just every time you do any major thing, drag a hunk to another lane or do a commit or you know pulling a branch or unapply a branch or whatever that we just kind of build up a history, an undue lock and you can look at it and just go go back to this point right and it just puts everything back Which is really nice because then you can mess around with stuff right and and it's kind of hard to lose anything Feel a little bit more confident So so yeah, we'll we'll bring that back Relatively soon, but I think it's gonna come back not as this very complicated timeline that that we found we weren't even using very much But more as a you know, I want to I want to undo the commit that I just did right and just have a control Z or whatever which is hard to, it's actually one of the things that people Google a lot for and get is how do I undo this thing that I did, right?
And so just having this very explicit, I can just go back to what everything looked like 10 minutes ago and hit the thing and it's all it's all back, right?
And that just goes on to the top of the stack so that you can undo that if you want to, right?
Like I find that very interesting and it's kind of interesting that that's also a rare feature in version control systems is version controlling the version control, right?
So I think that's how that's going to look.
The other thing that we've been working on, like I said, is this more jiu-jitsu type thing.
So I think we make it relatively easy to do orthogonal work, like parallel work, but dependent work is still very Git-like, right?
Like you can undo the last commit with a button, but can you undo the third commit back, right?
And sort of end up rebasing the rest, or can you insert a blank commit and then drag some stuff into that, but it's three commits down or something like that.
So I'm working on that, like I think horizontal and vertical sort of management of work, like there's work that is dependent on each other that you want to be able to manipulate your sort of commit stack and your patches, your patch manipulation, and then there's orthogonal work where this is just not related.
It doesn't matter what order these branches are merged in, and it shouldn't matter what order they're merged in, that I know they all work together, and the review process can go in any order, And it doesn't matter when it's integrated.
I'll just kind of keep it in here until I see an upstream and then it just disappears from my board, right?
And I think that's a lot of the the thing like you were talking about like you don't want to you don't want to worry But like I want to I want to take out stuff you don't want to worry about like I don't want to have to name a branch when I create the branch Right, I like this I like this material idea of anonymous branches of just being like I'm just gonna work on a different context and then I'll name it when I name it when I know what to name it, right?
Or I'll write my commit message over time.
I can start with a blank commit and write the commit message and then write the code and then like append it, like squash it into the commit.
Like that would be a nice way of doing it.
Like I don't have to wait until this very specific moment when I want to codify my work.
And now I need my whole commit message, right?
I find that's a nice thing about Jiu Jitsu is that you can kind of amend it over time and work on it as a document almost as you're working on the code.
And I think that's a much, much more interesting way of working than what we've kind of all been putting up with for a decade, right?
I want to talk about like teamwork flows a little bit.
So I mean source control is one of these things like pretty much like any other developer tool where people have a lot of opinions and some people feel very strongly about their opinions.
You know, this is like them versus them versus EMAX kind of like flame wars, uh, you know, they're definitely going to be people on teams that are not going to want to adopt your tool.
Like even if you get like a lot of people in that team, we're like, yeah, we like to use Git Butler.
We're all using it and they're going to be some people like, no, I will not.
You will pry the Git CLI from my cold dead hands.
How do you, uh, ensure that like teams can continue to work together?
Like does it still integrate with GitHub?
Like how how does the the overall team workflow happens when some people use it and some people don't.
Yeah, I mean, it's a great question.
It's one of the first things that I did.
One of my co-founder, Careel, he started a virtual system from scratch, right?
And I think the reason that that didn't work is this problem.
And I actually get about this problem too, of this sort of green field problem.
You need a whole company to move off of perforce and move on to get, right?
And it was constantly like all of the, I'd go into companies and do get training and stuff and it'd always be some small team, some green field, and then it kind of spread within the company, right?
but it has to go team by team, the whole team needs to use it.
And that's a horrible way of trying to get into, you break into a market, right?
So we design this from the outset to be like, it doesn't matter, right?
You can be the only one on the team using it.
And it's writing the same commits that anybody else is, nobody can tell that this is what you're doing.
You push it to GitHub, you can't tell the difference, right?
Like it's using a little bit to it's writing, it's writing commit, commit exactly the same way and anything else does.
And so I think that's that's very important.
What becomes interesting is when we get want to get into more team based workflows, right?
Start, start reinventing some of the review stuff or having our own hosted review stuff that's sort of pre pre GitHub, right, or something like that.
Be able to review work before you've committed it, right?
Or before you've pushed it, right?
I think that I pre-commit review would be really a valuable thing to be able to do.
But like some of the things that really are interesting to me that are completely unsolved are things like merge conflicts, right?
Like people have, it's not common, right?
I mean, it's common, but it's not what do you get merge conflicts once a week, once a month.
Like once a day, maybe, Like, if you're really on a busy team that's hitting the same files a lot, and a lot of times they're they're simple sometimes they're you know If you're working on you're if you have if you merge a lot then then they tend to be less if you're working on a feature branch for A month right then you're gonna conflict all over the place But but what's interesting about merge conflicts is in a team dynamic like it centralized version control systems You don't really have them right because things lock but in decentralized version control systems that's one of the disadvantages, but you have the advantage of just being able to have this nice clean context.
But when you do, it's so interesting to me because it's always, there's no communication, right?
They're very decentralized.
Like, even on GitHub, the branches don't know about each other.
The PRs don't know about each other.
Like, you can't, you could kind of test them all and say, this branch actually, you know, wants to merge at some point and this branch wants them, but they conflict with each other.
So this is going to be a race condition now, right?
Like, like whichever one and the weird part is whichever one hits the merge button first wins, right?
Like 100%, they have 0% of the work and the second person they hit that button has 100% of the integration work.
There's no, there's no way of solving that and so one of the things I really want to tackle at some point is having this, you know, if you're using GitBuller that the clients can communicate with each other, right?
And start saying, hey, this branch you're working on, And this doesn't merge cleanly with this other person's work in progress.
Neither of you have committed anything, but I can see already that you're working on the same file, right?
And you should probably start talking about that now, rather than three days from now when it's going to be a problem for one of you, right, whichever one's slowest.
And so there are interesting things of taking some centralized concepts and trying to be like, what was nicer about this in some way?
And can we kind of backport this into decentralized version control systems by helping them communicate a little bit, right?
Or even being able to work on conflicts in a team manner.
It'd be kind of nice for us both to see the conflicts as they're evolving and maybe comment on them and maybe say, how should we approach this?
And have some chat about it or something like that.
That's actually very difficult to do, especially if it's pre-committed.
So even if it's committed, you have to pull it down to do the merge and see the thing and then kind of reference it in Slack or whatever, like how do you even talk about merge conflicts with somebody, right?
So there's tons of stuff like that that I think that there's a lot of room for improvement in how we work together on source code and just really hasn't been addressed a lot.
So we live in an age of AI.
Do you think AI will help with merge conflicts in the future?
I see that you've been sprinkling like AI throughout the product.
Yeah, I mean AI is so interesting right like I'm curious what you guys find AI useful for I find it useful for a lot of stuff like I but very specific things like I don't I have a hard time imagining in the near future that I'm going to have a pull request description, and then some AI is going to solve it for me, right?
And be like, here's the changes to the 10 files that need to be changed in order for this to work the way that you want it to, maybe.
But like I haven't seen anything close to that, right?
Like I have a hard time getting it to write a section of a function, like really the way that I want it to, right?
But, but, you know, working in Rust for the first time, it's actually super helpful of being able to write a comment and be like, I have this, you know, sort of HashMap, and I need to turn it into like a vector of, you know, strings that are formatted in this specific way.
Like, I know there's fold and map and shit in here somewhere, but like, and then, you know, AI will kind of come in and be like, like this, and it's like, yeah, pretty close, right?
And you just kind of see what the compile errors aren't fixed one or two things.
But like, like, I find it useful for almost a replacement of documentation And so we're using it for that if you don't because this happens a lot right you you don't as part of it is because you have to write your commit message at the end.
But a lot of people don't like writing useful commit messages right descriptive commit messages and so you're like fix some stuff and you committed and you push it because you need to commit it in order to push it right and get hub sort of squashes.
is a lot of commits down into one unified diffs.
And nobody really reads the commit messages for the most part, I get a workflow anyways.
And so you don't really run into them until you blame something.
But so what we had it was just a button that says, right, my commit message for me, right?
And it just sends all the diffs out and it comes back and they're fantastic.
If you're not trying to explain why you did something and you're just trying to say, here's a one line of what happened in this patch, it's very good, right?
It can be incredibly descriptive in a in a in a good way and and we also use it for writing branch names Like like we you do an anonymous branch and then you work for a while and we see enough work And we can you can set on a toggle and we'll send it out to open AI and come back with a five word name or whatever It's like this is what this branch is doing right and you can rename it But like it's kind of nice to just have the system kind of automatically being like this is clearly what you're working on rate like this is, you know, if you if you want to stash this branch, like here's how to find it again.
It's this description for it.
So, um, so I, I, you know, we're sprinkling it in to answer your original question.
I think that AI tooling could be incredibly useful for certain types of merge conflicts.
Um, you can use them right now for I've been doing some experience with this of just sending merge conflicts to open AI or to anthropic or whatever and saying how would you solve this, right?
And it can do it sometimes, some types of, like, especially, you know, you add one class into tailwind, you know, described, like, it's in the middle of the thing or whatever.
And you're like, where it even is, like, you have to go into word diff or whatever to see what happened here and there.
AI tools or LLMs are quite good at being like, this is clearly what happened and now how to merge it together.
What I'm kind of interested in is something like GitHub's data set where, you know, they have, they And if you look at Git, any merge conflict that's ever happened in any project, in the history of Git, you can recreate, right, because the parents have you have the original parents and you can run it through the same algorithm that they would have originally run through.
And so this is almost certainly what the merge conflict look like, and you have the resolution in the merge parent, right?
And so we're in the merge object itself.
And so like you there's a database of Hundreds of millions of merge conflicts and what the resolutions are in every possible language, right?
That are all open source.
And so I think training something specifically like a small model to do just that Could be incredibly powerful, right?
It could be a very very good a sort of specific model, not instead of a general model, but I haven't, I don't really have the resources to do that yet, but I definitely see a future where there is a lot more help with merge conflicts or at least giving you the starting point of kind of what happened and where you might want to look, right, I think for really big gnarly merges it might be difficult, but certainly for small stuff can take that off you plate.
Yeah, I'm generally skeptical of AI for merge conflicts and and one of the big reasons why I say that is that There's been a lot of merge conflicts that I've had to do that I haven't had enough context as a person to resolve those And I've had to get other people involved Specifically the other person working on the other side of this and like talk about intent and and talk through It's like okay, what of this do we want to keep we both change something in a similar direction and now we have decisions to make and and it's not like, oh, we just accept this and accept this and it's fine.
It's like, no, actually, now there's more work to do.
And we've got to reconcile and do other stuff.
We had Maggie Hamilton on the podcast recently.
And she's sort of takes a stance generally against a generative AI and less it's for like summarization.
And I think the summarization use case, especially with Git Butler, I think is actually really good.
I did appreciate the auto names, branches, is an auto commit generation.
Because for a lot of people, it's just the seed of like, okay, what do I even write in this empty text box?
And if you just give them something, that's usually enough to inspire them to add more.
So I think that's good.
The other thing that I think is really interesting here is translating intent into action when maybe you don't know exactly how to do the thing that you wanna do.
And I think especially, This is especially to have true like UIs that require very specific interactions to accomplish a task.
I was doing some product research and using retool to try to build things and I was like, oh, how do I do this thing that I know how to do in their UI?
And sometimes it's just like, if you just had to like a text box, it was like, look, this is the thing I want to do, like do it for me, like show me how to, you know, do this.
Yeah, I've actually by far the most valuable thing that I've used AI for probably recently is in HECS.
It's like a data HECS dot tech, I think, is this like Jupyter and Open type, type deal.
And it writes Python, you know, pandas code for me, right?
Because I never remember, I don't do it enough to really remember off the top of my head, like, how do I manipulate this pandas, you know, data frame into into sort of the thing and then turn it into a graph that I, you know, that I want to, that I want to use.
But I know how to explain that, right?
And so I can be like, I'm trying to take this, this data frame and turn it into this, like, you know, change this field to filter it into this, whatever.
And it's like, no problem.
And it works, right?
Like hundreds, like almost a hundred percent of the time.
It is mind blowing.
How much time I've saved trying to go through pandas documentation to figure out how to do something specific writer find some examples or write some SQL for me sometimes.
So I'm relatively good at SQL.
I'm old enough that I actually had to write a lot of stuff directly in SQL and not Errol or whatever in my early days.
And so I can do a lot of a lot of SQL stuff.
But even then there's some there's some some difficult things to kind of wrap your head around.
And if you tell it, okay, I want a cohort table, like cohort stuff is a little bit difficult to do sometimes, or given up anyways.
But it'll help you write all that stuff.
So that type of thing, I think, we've been thinking about it for things like absorb classification.
So if you have a three or four commits and then you go in and you edit, you fix things that came up and review across 10 files or something, it would be really nice to hit a button that says figure out which of these commits that's each changed hunk should theoretically go into, so that I don't have to be like, okay, this goes here and this goes here, right?
AI is probably pretty good at that of being like, this is similar to these files or this is historically committed with what these two files are, historically, have changes together or they're similar.
It's obviously a test for this thing, right?
And can kind of stick it where based on the commit message and based on the file contents and the changes, just say, this most likely is classified to go into this commit, right?
So there's that type of, but all of it is, it's all, most of the stuff that we're thinking of is saving you a couple of minutes at a time.
It's not saving you hours at a time or something, but it's reducing friction in a way that you don't wanna, you wanna work on the code, you don't wanna work on whatever you don't wanna work on.
I do think that there's this interesting idea that there's like a new paradigm of API where we build GUI products to give a very specific type of workflow to the user and sort of direct them and guide them into doing specific actions that we translate down into machine operations that are more complex or prepackage or something.
And, you know, a lot of times it was like, give an API to our product.
So it's like, oh, well, you can't necessarily do this in your UI.
We just haven't prioritized it.
It's like not there yet.
Like, we have these APIs. You know, you use a REST API and you do this thing.
There's a lot of non-technical people are like not technical enough or don't have enough time.
We don't care enough to do the thing.
But there's this interesting idea of like having this internal API that's there that in LLM can just like integrate and use.
And it's like, oh, well, you want to do this thing?
Yeah, I can do this thing for you.
and is like internally do this stuff without them having to like make a bunch of API calls or whatever.
I think this is like interesting use case for the future of like AI integration into our products.
Yeah, there's there's you know in the version control world the other the other interesting thing that that we've been looking at and trying to figure out you know what do we if we had to go from first principles on a on a toolset a lot of the archaeology tools and get I think I haven't been, you know, it would be interesting to rethink them, right?
And I think AP or AI can possibly play a big part in that.
Like, you know, explain this function to me, right?
Or something like that, right?
Where it could go through all of the commits that modified that, like, when it was moved from this file to this file, when it was restructured, take out white space changes.
Like, you know, you can do get blame, dash, you know, capital C three times, dash L range, whatever.
Like, if you know how to do all that, And then you get the last one and then they're like walking back through, okay, tell me the story about or you know Even having access to slack conversations or you know engineering, you know Converse or GitHub issues or whatever like what's all the context around this tell me tell me you know What is the story of this of this function right?
So because I want to edit it And I don't know why it doesn't work the way that that we want or I don't want to not break something right like was there Sentry stuff involved in the last time this was you know edited or whatever.
I don't know like like it's interesting to think about about what we use some of our version of tools to answer, and if they're actually good at answering those questions, or if they're the only tool we have to answer those questions, and so we're fine with whatever we're given, right?
But I think AI could be really good at that, of being able to do these more free form questions about your code or about the history, or about what you're trying to do, or about who to talk to about something, right?
And so I'm excited about that, but we kind of have to, we're tackling like one section of the world the version control tools or of what Git does for us at a time, and it's interesting at every point to be like, is there anything that AI can be good at?
That otherwise seems like a slog.
That's what I find people find the most valuable, right?
It can be cute or whatever, and there's some applications that you'll use it, and it's like, wow, it's interesting.
It can do this, but it's not really helping me that much.
It's just kind interesting and there's other stuff that's super interesting like I really love how how much less I have to dig through documentation sites with you know crappy search indices when instead I can just ask chat GPT how would you do this right and and a lot of time or even just like I said right the comment in the code and have co-pilot be like is it this right and it's like that course that's That's very close, right?
And it's kind of like what you said.
It's not that I'm using the, the GitBuller AI commit message thing to write my commit message, but sometimes I'm just using it to remind myself what I did, right?
Because it gives me a nice summary, and it's like, oh yeah, though that is largely what I, but I'll put my own flavor into it, right?
Or my own insight, right?
But it kind of helps me not have to go through 50 Difts, right?
And be like, what was I doing here?
Yeah, I'm excited to see what else you guys do with AI in the future.
But wrapping up the conversation here, we usually like to ask a future face and question of our guest and for you I think the question is obvious.
What do you think the future of version control is and the future of sharing code?
Yeah, boy, that's a really great question.
I you know, I don't even know if this is a good answer to this.
My question actually about this that I'm most concerned about is where software development gets done in what time frame?
Because there are tools like code spaces or get pod or something like that where there's kind of a bet in taking software development into the cloud and having our laptops be thin clients and we're all kind of, I don't have to have a $3,000 Mac or whatever to get stuff done.
I can have a Chromebook, but I feel like that promise has been around for a while and every time that I've tried to do it, even though I'm very excited about it, I've found to very, very frustrating, very difficult.
And it depends on the type of software that you're doing as well, right?
And I think the proliferation of all of these technologies that people do use and love and stuff makes it even harder, because it has to work well for sort of all of them, right?
And so we're building a desktop app.
So we're kind of betting on people are still developing on the desktop, right?
Like it doesn't, if everybody moves the code spaces, it's gonna be a little bit difficult to move our tool set there.
But I'm curious, right?
Like, I feel like this has been a constant possibility.
It's just been very difficult to do.
And yeah, I'm fascinated with what the future of software development is going to be.
And AI changes a lot of this as well, right?
Like, is it going to get good enough where I can say here's what I want?
And it can write 100,000 versions of it and test all of them and give me the three that that seem to work the best, which is not what it does right now, but what it theoretically could do.
It is very parallelizable.
Do we have different programming languages that are good at what AI's good at?
AI's writing software in frameworks and languages that were designed for human beings and have the things that human beings are bad at designed into it to be better at.
And so, you know, and it's trained on that and it can regurgitate that, but like, you know, you could theoretically design programming languages that was much better at what, you know, what an LLM is good at producing and massively testing in parallel, right?
Like human beings can't do that.
And so nothing's designed for that.
So I'm, you know, I think we're in a really interesting space where none of us really have a good idea and we kind of, you know, year to year, month to month kind of have to figure out what could be possible in a year or five years.
But I think at the end of the day, what's really important about our jobs, about software development, is having taste in what the end user has.
I'm trying to make tools to make that process easier to get out of your brain and do.
But just like you can build great software in and react even though I hate it.
You can build great software in Svelte.
You can build great software in Ruby, even on lots of people hate it, right?
Like there's, you can have these wars, but it doesn't, in the end of the day, Scala or whatever you choose, who gives a shit, right?
Like what matters is, is this good, does this solve somebody's problem?
And so I think like that, AI will be a good way of generating software, but you have to have a good idea, right?
You have to have good taste on what that needs to do for people, for human beings.
and I think that's going to be difficult to get out of the process, which is exciting to me.
The future is fuzzy, but we'll get there.
That wraps it up for our questions this episode.
Thanks for coming on, Scott.
This was a super interesting conversation about the history of Git Hub and what you're doing with Git Butler.
Thanks for coming on.
Yeah, thank you for having me.
It's been great.
Yeah, thanks, Scott.
I really enjoy Git Butler a lot.
It's been really fun to work with.
I'm not working.
I'm not using it as much right now because I'm just started to start up with a friend of mine and We're using some modules a ton like more than I've ever used some modules So when you have some modules before you let me know I know I'll get back on the track We haven't started to tackle that that that's a beast We've we've we just wrote in a thing we got so many probably just wrote in a thing It's like if you see to get modules just stop Yeah, I know I know cuz it like suddenly didn't work for me anymore.
I was like wait, what happened?
And anyway, yeah, but it's fantastic work.
I'm really excited about the future of what you're doing there.
I think it's very needed in the space.
So thanks for working on it.
Can I plug something as well?
Yeah, please.
Yeah, so like I mentioned at the beginning of this, we're putting on a developer experience.
So there's a lot of things I've been learning doing a new developer tools company.
And so I've talked to a bunch of people that have been in space a lot about, how do you do marketing now?
Why didn't it's been 10 years since I, or how do you open source a project in a nice way or engage the community or whatever, right?
And so I decided it'd be kind of fun.
Like the GitBuller staff has been like, okay, I've been talking at all these conferences.
So we decided to put on our own conference to just do this.
So it's not like a GitBuller conference.
It's just us organizing a bunch of interesting people that are doing stuff in the developer experience and developer tools world.
And it's in Berlin in June 13th and 14th, I believe.
and you can go to merge.berlin.
If you are interested in coming or talking to me about any of this stuff, obviously I'll be there.
It's gonna be a super great time.
So if you're in Europe or you wanna, or you wanna an excuse to go to Berlin, please come and join and, you know, we have people from, actually Adam Wiggins who we talked about before speaking at the conference and a bunch of people from Hashtag Corp and from Microsoft and GitHub and everything.
So yeah, it'll be great time.
Please join us and that's my point.
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