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I'm going to go with great idea because for the last two and a half weeks I have been frantically coding because ultimately the horror of horror has happened and I had a migration go bad in my pocket base stack and I could not get my VM stood up and in that fray I was able to get everything recovered but it reminded me that playing with things that are not battle tested can be a little bit dangerous and I spent a lot of time trying to get express and my pocket base app and next stress, all talking and working nicely together.
They all could work, absolutely could work.
And I wrote a blog post that has a lot of more details on the nuances, but long story short, I did not have time to figure out all the nuances.
So I went back to my old friend Laravel.
I have written Laravel 10 years ago.
I really liked Laravel.
And so I said let Let me grab something that is stable.
And in two weeks, I rebuilt the whole app.
I did, I sat on top of all the admin stuff.
So the subscription management is all handled by SassyKit.
So I basically, I spent a couple of hundred bucks.
I said, let me grab something that took away the things that are not the differentiator.
My app does audio summarization to a podcast.
It does not do subscriptions.
I don't need to write that.
That does not need to be something that I need to do.
Now, I eventually probably will whittle away and make it all integrated at some point, but that'll be over time.
So I bought that and that got me at least.
I didn't have to write all the subscription pieces and how to actually integrate with Stripe that just was all done.
And so I worked on the app for two weeks for a couple hours every night and I got it.
And it's launched and it's live and audiobrevida.com is a thing that you can go to and actually start using and summarizing podcasts and getting an email to you and there's share links that you can share podcasts with others and it is amazing.
I'm using it all the time.
I love the product and I'm having a little bit of a crisis internally because I don't market things well when I'm the one that has to do the marketing.
I know how to do it and I'm going to start doing more of it, combination of blog posts and potentially even pain for some marketing but ultimately I am realizing oh I actually need to go for lack of better term I have to go to the spread the word of this thing.
I like be mine the scenes but that all that said the feedback and beginning from people is it's really fitting the niche that I thought it would fit.
I can't wait for it to break even.
I'm optimistic that I'll get there but it's not there yet and that's okay because at the very least it's not costing me a ton of money to run and I'm using it and I'm loving it and it's getting me what I need so that's a thing and so that's where audio brevity has been.
Larvel is oh man I'm reminded how much I love it Larvel it's super productive you just get work done and I'm not gonna lie AI has written a ton of the code.
And Laravel actually sets you up for a success in that, because there's a lot of patterns in Laravel that are consistent across applications.
It was, you know, I couldn't necessarily say, hey, use the pocket base API and do this.
Now I could in the I would put in the documentation from pocket base and actually did a decent job, but there's a huge a huge corpus of Laravel code out there in the wild that has been trained upon, and so I can pretty much consistently ask a question, add context to my application, and I'm getting back really good responses.
They are aligned with Laravel patterns and ultimately deliver.
And oftentimes I can do, like right now, actually I'm working on a feature where I need to actually add the podcast links to the podcast to the data structure.
I didn't add it to the original database, so I need to add that, which is going to be super simple.
But then I need to write the migration that ultimately goes...
It's not a migration as much as I need to write a new job, but they will actually go through every single podcast and re-scan and find the URLs and re-add the URLs into the database.
So that's going to be many thousands and thousands of podcasts.
So I need to write that.
And frankly, I'm going to ask, I'm using in PHP storm, I have GitHub, Copilot, and I'm using that, and I basically just add the context of all the things that they need to add.
And oh man, is it just working?
And I basically will ask it, and I may be not in this podcast, but maybe I'll actually create another podcast episode where I'll actually literally just like, I'm just going to code, and I'm going to walk through what I'm doing.
So just kind of like how I'm using co-pilot to write code with me.
But that is where audio brevity is.
If you want to give it a try, more than encourage you to do so.
It's been really awesome for me.
I think the biggest feature for me is so often I listen to a podcast and say, oh my gosh, that's something that I know that Jason is going to want to hear.
And so I can grab the summary and grab the share link and send it to Jason and say, hey, you might be really interested in this podcast and he can read the summary and decide for himself whether or not that's actually the thing that he's interested in.
And that has been the killer app for me in addition to just being able to actually like I get in the morning, I have the podcast from the normally I'm listening to the morning, I can skim the summaries and be like, ooh, I'm gonna listen to that one, I'm gonna listen to that one, I'm gonna listen to that one, I'm getting ready in the morning, that's been awesome.
So, anyway, that is me and my ramblings of if I move to Laravel, whoo, and I'm really glad that I did, I missed, I missed PHP.
That's gonna make me sound crazy, but I missed PHP.
It's so really fun language, and I also missed the community, holy caboose as the Laravel community as a really fun community, and it has served me well, and I'm optimistic that I can continue to use this code base and optimize this code base.
There's a lot of optimizations I can do and it's not going to be hard for me to get this code base absolutely singing.
But for now in under two weeks or in about two weeks I wrote the entirety of audio brevity again in Laravel and it just snaps.
I'm excited.
So that is that onto the next adventure.","created_at":"2024-09-11T06:26:16.000000Z","updated_at":"2025-07-15T06:13:57.000000Z","requested_by":[2],"status":"completed","delay_time":null,"worker_id":null,"job_id":null,"execution_time":null,"runpod_job_id":null,"error_message":null,"completed_at":null,"word_level_timestamps":null,"claimed_at":null,"embedding_claimed_at":"2025-07-15 06:13:57","embedding_worker_id":"macbook-air-worker-1"}