Sweet Hang #2: Humans Still Required w/ Jeffrey Way

Oct 16, 2025 85m

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Ian and Aaron are joined this week by Jeffrey Way, creator of Laracasts, to talk about everything from their opinions about JavaScript to the evolution of Laracasts to modeling behavior for your kids and so much more.

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(00:00) - Optimizing Everything
(07:41) - Social Media, Kids, & Modeling Behavior
(21:42) - Vision Quest Deep Dive
(34:46) - Switch to Subscription?
(39:48) - The Evolution of Laracasts
(50:03) - Opinions About JavaScript
(57:00) - Deciding What To Teach
(01:02:59) - Chess
(01:07:47) - YouTube & AI's Impact

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Optimizing Everything

The episode kicks off with a discussion on how programmers often try to optimize every aspect of their lives, highlighting the unhealthy relationship with automation. Jeffrey, Ian, and Aaron share their experiences with lighting setups for their podcasting. They express frustration over managing apps like Elgato for their lighting and how simpler solutions sometimes lead to better quality.

Social Media, Kids, & Modeling Behavior

The conversation transitions to the impact of social media on parenting. Jeffrey shares his struggle to balance social media use while being present for his children. The trio discusses how children emulate their parents’ behavior, emphasizing the need for mindful interaction.

Vision Quest Deep Dive

The discussion leads into the concept of a Vision Quest, where individuals take time out to reflect and plan for their future. Jeffrey expresses the challenges he faces in finding the time to dedicate to personal reflection amid his responsibilities as a father and entrepreneur.

The Evolution of Laracasts and the Role of AI

As they delve into the evolution of Laracasts, they debate how AI is changing the landscape of education and software development. The implications of AI on creative work and the necessity of human input are considered, with a focus on how these technological advances can both hinder and aid creativity.

Opinion on JavaScript and Teaching

In this section, they discuss the numerous tools available in the JavaScript ecosystem, debating whether to jump on trendy frameworks or stick to their roots. The importance of focusing on quality education versus catering to demand is explored.

Chess and the Importance of Shared Experiences

The podcast wraps up with a light-hearted conversation about chess, including Jeffrey’s childhood success and reflections on the shared human experiences that can be lost in a digital world.