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Resist and Unsubscribe with Gov. Tim Walz

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Key takeaways

  • Technology's role in society is increasing, and its implications on politics and personal lives are profound.
  • Consumer awareness and action can lead to significant economic impact, particularly through subscription cancellations.
  • Fighting against harmful legislation, especially concerning marginalized communities, remains crucial.
  • Economic strikes and non-participation can serve as effective strategies for driving social and political change.
  • Engagement in community and political discourse can empower individuals to advocate for their rights and values.

Summary

Introduction and Overview of the Live Event

In this episode of 'Pivot,' hosts Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway are live from the Pantages Theater in Minneapolis to celebrate 'Resist and Unsubscribe.' They are joined by Minnesota Governor Tim Walz to discuss the state's resistance against Trump, ICE, and Kristi Noem. The conversation also touches on the role of tech companies in the political landscape and the actions Democrats should take in light of current events.

Target's Controversial Stance

The hosts discuss Target's political stance and the backlash from employees and consumers regarding the company's compliance with immigration enforcement. Despite being a major employer in Minnesota, Target faces criticism for not standing firm against ICE and the Trump administration, with Scott commenting on missed opportunities for the company’s leadership.

Current Issues Impacting Trans Rights

The introduction of a new Kansas law that invalidates the driver's licenses of transgender individuals sparks a conversation about the ongoing challenges faced by the community. The law, which includes a bounty provision, is described as a cruel measure that dehumanizes trans people and raises concerns over civil rights.

Economic Strikes as a Form of Resistance

Scott discusses the power of economic strikes in a capitalist society, highlighting that non-participation can be an effective way to send a message to corporations and politicians. He reflects on how previous movements, such as the Montgomery bus strike, successfully utilized economic boycotts, proposing similar strategies in today's political climate.

Insights from the 'Resist and Unsubscribe' Movement

Scott reports on the success of the 'Resist and Unsubscribe' campaign, revealing that the movement has received over one and a half million unique visits. The goal is to empower consumers to cancel subscriptions to companies that do not reflect their values, as a way of showing resistance against harmful political actions and corporate complicity.

Final Thoughts and Takeaways

The episode concludes with a call to action for listeners, encouraging them to take steps towards activism in their everyday lives. The discussion emphasizes the importance of voting, community engagement, and using economic power as tools for social change.

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Show notes

Kara and Scott are live in Minneapolis for a special show celebrating 'Resist and Unsubscribe.'  They’re joined by Minnesota Governor Tim Walz to discuss how the state pushed back against Trump, ICE, and Kristi Noem — and what Democrats should be doing now. Then, Target’s political stance continues to frustrate critics, Elon Musk takes the stand, and a new Kansas law invalidates driver's licenses for transgender residents. Plus, Scott gives an update on the impact of 'Resist and Unsubscribe,' and reveals what comes next.

A special thank you to Tane Danger and ⁠⁠⁠Danger Boat Productions⁠⁠ in Minneapolis!

Producers: Lara Naaman, Zoë Marcus, Taylor Griffin, and Christine Driscoll

Audio Engineer: Ernie Indradat

Video Editor: Rich Shibley

Special Thanks: Drew Burrows, Mia Silverio, Dan Chiolan

Vox Media's Executive Producer of Podcasts: Nishat Kurwa

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This episode was recorded live at The Pantages Theater in Minneapolis on March 8, 2026.
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