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Ex-DHS Chief Miles Taylor: Trump, Treason, and Executive Power

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Trump health rumors, media scrutiny, and what counts as news kick off the show before a wide-ranging interview with Miles Taylor—former DHS Chief of Staff and author of Blowback—about the April 2025 White House memo labeling him "treasonous," the threats that followed, alleged blacklisting, and how executive power can be bent to punish speech. We discuss investigations vs. "fishing expeditions," loyalty scorecards for companies, and why institutions cave—or don't. In the spiel, Mike reframes the immigration fight: policy trade-offs, public opinion, and what data actually say about enforcement. Plus, a critique of a viral CNN segment on a deportation case and how storytelling choices shape perceptions. *Please Note that Mike is on assignment, which is why his audio is not ideal* Come See Mike Pesca at Open Debate

Produced by Corey Wara

Production Coordinator Ashley Khan

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