The Gist
What to Make of Fire and Fury
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On The Gist, Sen. Lindsey Graham is defending the president extra hard on television … because he knows Trump's watching.
In the interview, NPR's media correspondent David Folkenflik tells us what to make of Fire and Fury, the book that claims to reveal how dysfunctional the Trump administration really is.
In the Spiel, Mike gives props to Oprah for her acceptance speech at the Golden Globes. But that doesn't mean she should run for president.
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