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Encounters With the Very, Very Famous

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One piece of interview advice from Chuck Klosterman: You can't make a celebrity interview feel like a real conversation. "They know it's not real. They wouldn't be here, and I wouldn't be asking these questions, if it wasn't for the tape recorder," says Klosterman. His new book, X, includes profiles and essays on some of the biggest names in pop culture from Klosterman's storied career, including Kobe Bryant and Taylor Swift.

In the Spiel, breaking down the disparate, strange, nonsensical explanations for Donald Trump's Russia leaks.

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