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The Defund Debate Cycle

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On the Gist, does Barr know what chemicals are?

In the interview, New York Times opinion columnist and CBS News political analyst Jamelle Bouie joins Mike to talk race and policing in America. His latest column is, "The Police Are Rioting. We Need to Talk About It."

In the spiel, defining police reformation.

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Podcast production by Daniel Schroeder and Margaret Kelley.

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