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Ben Rhodes On Democrats' Missteps

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Barack Obama's Former Deputy National Security Advisor, Ben Rhodes discusses whether or not Democrats still embody what they say they stand for. The co-host of Pod Save The World and author of (among many things) a New York TImes Essay, titled "I Study Guys Like Trump. There's a Reason They Keep Winning." Plus, Pete Hegseth's mom was pretty down on Pete Hegseth a few years ago ... and now everyone knows about it.

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