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DEF CON 34

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It's August, which means it's time for Hacker Summer Camp once again! I flew out to a sweltering Las Vegas, Nevada, to attend two of the three major cybersecurity ("hacker") conferences: BSides and DEF CON. I had an amazing week, spending time with new and old friends, meeting some of the people I've interviewed in person, lining up more podcast guests, and having wonderfully stimulating conversations with very smart people. While at DEF CON, I managed to record four mini interviews with Bob Lord, Naomi Brockwell, Josh Corman and the Dark Tangent himself, Jeff Moss. I will try to give you some idea what these conferences are like as we discuss several important and timely topics.

Interview Notes

Hacklore: https://www.hacklore.org/ 

Naomi Brockwell (NBTV): https://www.nbtv.media/ 

Ludlow Institute: https://www.ludlowinstitute.org/ 

Surveillance Accountability Act: https://www.surveillanceaccountability.com/ 

UnDisruptable27: https://u27.org 

I Am the Cavalry, BSides 2026 (Monday): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4C8stKbxBM 

BSides IATC schedule: https://bsideslv.org/schedule#IATC 

Cliff Stoll talk: https://www.youtube.com/live/_uYQr8hfpbI?t=13292s 

DEF CON: https://defcon.org/

DEF CON 20 Documentary: https://archive.org/details/DEFCON20Documentary 

DEF CON 33 Documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pb0kJXSy64E 

Further Info

Digital Citizen, Phase 1: https://fdsd.me/phase1 

Countdown to FDSD500!! https://fdsd500.com 

Get your FDSD500 merch!! https://fdsd.me/merch 

My book: https://fdsd.me/book 

My newsletter: https://fdsd.me/newsletter 

Support the mission: https://fdsd.me/support 

Give the gift of privacy and security: https://fdsd.me/coupons 

Table of Contents

0:00:07: Intro

0:00:50: Hacker Summer Camp

0:11:30: Interview preface

0:14:26: Bob Lord

0:21:18: Bob afterword

0:24:08: Naomi intro

0:26:09: Naomi Brockwell

0:35:51: Naomi afterword

0:40:58: Josh intro

0:42:58: Josh Corman

0:56:01: Josh afterword

1:01:08: Jeff intro

1:03:00: Jeff Moss

1:23:12: Jeff afterword

1:24:30: Wrap-up

1:26:20: Patron podcast preview

1:26:45: Phase 1 still going

1:27:13: Looking ahead

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