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Two wars, no clear exit plan. Now what? | Ian Bremmer

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Key takeaways

  • The conflicts in Iran and Ukraine are deeply entrenched, with no clear exit strategies in sight, largely due to diverging perceptions of leverage and strategic interests.
  • U.S. leadership under Trump has been characterized by restraint and a lack of transparency, which has increased domestic and international concerns about accountability and policy clarity.
  • Regional and global political dynamics, including influences from Iran, Russia, China, and regional leaders, significantly affect the trajectory of these conflicts and potential resolutions.
  • Despite ongoing violence, the global economy has shown surprising resilience, but the costs—economic, human, and political—are substantial and likely to continue rising.
  • Diplomatic efforts, particularly ceasefire negotiations and regional stability initiatives, remain vital to prevent further escalation, especially in Ukraine, where the risk of wider war persists.

Summary

The Ongoing Wars in Iran and Ukraine: Why They Persist

Ian Bremmer discusses the complexity and entrenched nature of the conflicts in Iran and Ukraine. He explains that the Iran-U.S. conflict continues largely because of diverging perceptions of leverage: Iran believes it controls the Strait of Hormuz and can sustain its resistance by escalating attacks, while the U.S. aims to pressure Iran into compliance without full-scale war. Similarly, the Ukraine conflict is at a stalemate, with both sides engaging in asymmetric warfare and using diplomatic and military pressures. Bremmer emphasizes that despite the destruction, the global economy has shown increased resilience, avoiding the worst-case scenarios. The conflicts are costly, but they are also a reflection of strategic and political calculations by key regional and global players.

U.S. Political Dynamics and Leadership in the Middle East and Beyond

Bremmer analyzes President Trump’s approach to foreign policy, highlighting his restrained military responses despite support for escalation. He critiques the lack of transparency and accountability in leadership decisions, mentioning specific examples like false announcements about Iran sanctions. The discussion also touches on Trump’s focus on regional issues like Venezuela and his preference for moves that favor U.S. interests in the Western Hemisphere. Bremmer discusses potential political shifts, including the influence of figures like JD Vance and Tucker Carlson, and contemplates how domestic U.S. politics and upcoming elections impact foreign policy decisions.

Potential Outcomes and Future Risks in Ukraine and Russia

The conversation shifts to Ukraine, where Bremmer notes Ukraine’s current strength and success in defending against Russia, yet warns of the risk of escalation if Russian frustrations lead to desperate measures, including the possibility of nuclear threats. He explores the internal pressures on Putin’s leadership, the possibility of a political or military change, and Russia’s asymmetric warfare tactics against NATO allies. Bremmer emphasizes the importance of diplomatic efforts, like ceasefire talks encouraged by some regional leaders, and warns of the dangers of prolonged conflict and escalation, which could destabilize the region further.

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Show notes

Six months into a catastrophic war in Iran — and with no end in sight for the war in Ukraine — the world is embroiled in conflicts with no apparent exit plan. In this interview, political scientist and Eurasia Group founder Ian Bremmer breaks down what these wars are costing people around the world — and which one he's more worried might spiral out of control. (This interview, hosted by TED's Helen Walters, was recorded on July 28, 2026.)

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