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Everybody’s Business: DOGE, Trump and the Rise of the Manosphere

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Key takeaways

  • The rise of the manosphere reflects societal discussions on masculinity and identity crisis.
  • Elon Musk's credibility is at stake as he steps back from influential projects like Dogecoin, indicating broader economic implications.
  • Trump's engagement with the manosphere reveals a strategic shift in political outreach aimed at younger, male demographics.
  • The juxtaposition of moral implications in the AI cheating tool story emphasizes the ever-blurring lines in modern entrepreneurship.

Summary

Overview of the Manosphere

In the episode, hosts Max Chafkin and Stacey Vanek Smith delve into the concept of the 'manosphere'—a term that encompasses various internet spaces focused on hyper-masculinity. They explore recent developments and focus on how these groups have gained traction in discussions around masculinity and male identity, especially in the context of populist politics. The rise of figures like Trump and Musk is examined, highlighting how their actions resonate within these spheres.

Elon Musk’s Influence and the Shift Away from Doge

The conversation transitions to Elon Musk's recent decision to step back from Dogecoin, explored within the broader context of his changing public perception. With Musk's popularity waning due to his political affiliations and business missteps, the hosts discuss how this might symbolize a larger narrative about masculinity, power, and the economic landscape, particularly as it pertains to his relevance in the man economy.

Trump's Connection with the Manosphere and Pop Culture

Sarah Frier joins the discussion to analyze how Donald Trump's outreach to the manosphere has been shaped by various influences, including a former talent manager named John Shahidi, who has been pivotal in merging mainstream and podcast culture. They discuss a specific moment where Trump speaks on a podcast about cocaine, portraying a relatable, unfiltered persona that resonates with young male voters, significantly impacting his appeal.

AI, Cheating, and the Underrated Story of the Week

In the closing segment, the hosts highlight the story of a Columbia student suspended for developing an AI cheating tool called Cluey. Despite negative consequences, the tool received $5.3 million in venture capital, showcasing a bizarre yet fascinating intersection of ethics, technology, and entrepreneurial success in today's culture.

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Show notes

In the fourth (top secret) episode of Bloomberg Businessweek’s new podcast Everybody’s Business, hosts Max Chafkin and Stacey Vanek Smith grapple with the rise of the Man-o-sphere. Elon Musk is backing away from Doge, but his legacy will linger, and Max reveals the man behind Doge (hint: it’s not Elon)

Then Sarah Frier joins the show to talk about the former talent agent who introduced President Trump to the Manosphere and how he politicized the space. And how one clip of President Trump talking to a podcast host about cocaine won the hearts and minds of the manosphere and put them squarely on team Trump.

Finally, as the underrated story of the week, Stacey and Max discuss an AI tool invention that got a Columbia student suspended and then won him millions in venture capital

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