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What Comes After the IDE 🖥 — with Amelia Wattenberger
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Today's guest is Amelia Wattenberger, former principal research engineer at GitHub and now partner at Sutter Hill Ventures.
But she's also a product lead at Augment Code, where she developed Intent, a developer workspace for orchestrating AI coding agents and delivering complex work.
So this is a fascinating chat into the future and the present of software development with someone who has clearly been at the very frontier of this for many years.
(00:00) Preview
(01:11) Introduction
(03:26) What is "Intent"?
(09:56) Splitting agents for best performance
(12:32) Spec and subtasks
(17:46) Decision and generation
(22:15) Features, opinion and abstractions
(25:37) The note system
(27:41) Attitude is reflected in approach
(35:21) Engineers in the new era of crafting
(37:14) Managing skills applied to an agent environment
(39:46) Orchestrating agents
(45:50) The future of deep specialists
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Today’s sponsor is Intent by Augment. Intent is a developer workspace built for orchestrating agents: it starts with the living spec that updates as agents make progress, so every task stays aligned with no manual coordination. Try it for yourself at https://www.augmentcode.com/product/intent
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