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The Chopping Block: The Midterm Mega Tsunami, a16z Goes Frontier, the CFTC Clears Equity Perps, and the Fight Over Abliterated AI Models

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Key takeaways

  • a16z’s move from crypto to Frontier reflects the normalization of AI and other frontier technologies in crypto venture investing, unlike Paradigm’s heavily mocked 2023 attempt.
  • Prediction markets correctly identified the Democratic congressional victory early, but the hosts believe they still underpriced the size of the wave because they tracked inaccurate polls.
  • The new Congress is approximately two-to-one pro-crypto in both chambers, yet the hosts expect investigations, posturing, and Trump-related conflict rather than meaningful crypto legislation.
  • Tarun and the other hosts see no obvious market-making rationale for Cboe and Citadel’s challenge to U.S. single-stock perps, since the products could create substantial new trading volume.
  • Delays to U.S. data-center construction may benefit established frontier labs in the short term by limiting competition and reducing their incremental compute commitments, even though they constrain long-term growth.
  • The hosts argue that obliterated AI models cannot realistically be regulated out of existence and that security researchers need unrestricted models for defensive work, though misuse can still create liability.

Summary

a16z Crypto becomes a16z Frontier

The hosts discuss a16z Crypto’s expansion into a16z Frontier, which keeps crypto but adds “new computing paradigms,” agent-to-agent systems, and other futuristic technologies. Haseeb describes it as a grab bag for ideas that do not fit a16z’s existing AI-infrastructure or biotech funds, while Robert jokes that it may simply reflect whatever Chris Dixon wants to pursue. They compare the move with Paradigm’s 2023 attempt to become a crypto-and-AI firm, which Twitter mocked until Paradigm retreated. The hosts say the absence of similar backlash now reflects how completely AI has changed the venture landscape.

Polymarket called the midterm “mega tsunami” early

The hosts say Democrats delivered a far larger midterm victory than expected, taking races that had been considered deeply Republican. Polymarket’s favorite won 419 of 426 races, and by 7 p.m. the market priced a 99% chance of total congressional control, making the election effectively over for anyone watching prediction markets. Mississippi was the conspicuous miss, but the race was decided by roughly 50 votes and remained incompletely counted. Robert argues that prediction markets were accurate in aggregate but still underpriced the magnitude of the wave because they followed polls that substantially underweighted Democratic support.

The hosts debate what the blue wave means for Trump

The hosts interpret the result less as an embrace of Democrats than as a rejection of Trump, Trumpism, inflation, the Iran war, and candidates Trump personally backed. Tom says Republicans appeared to discover they had been living in a political bubble, while Robert argues Trump dragged the entire Republican ticket down. Robert’s crypto-specific test is whether Trump made America the crypto capital of the world; his answer is “not really,” citing Trump Coin and World Liberty Financial as liabilities. They expect investigations and corruption messaging around Trump to dominate the next two years.

A younger, roughly 2:1 pro-crypto Congress may still accomplish little

Haseeb cites Stand With Crypto’s numbers: 226 pro-crypto versus 106 anti-crypto members in the House, and 19 versus 8 in the Senate. Robert says the blue wave produced many moderate candidates in traditionally red districts, including Bitcoin-friendly Texas representative-elect figures, making the new Congress potentially pragmatic despite its Democratic dominance. He still expects almost no crypto legislation: Maxine Waters may revive a Clarity-style bill, Elizabeth Warren favors regulation that could make crypto obsolete, and Trump may veto whatever reaches him. The panel expects posturing, hearings, and positioning for 2028 rather than signed laws.

The CFTC clears single-stock perps and is sued within hours

CFTC chairman Mike Selig announced that U.S. designated contract markets could offer single-stock perpetual futures, allowing equity perps to trade domestically rather than forcing users offshore. Cboe and Citadel sued within hours, arguing the products are swaps and should face different restrictions. Tarun cannot understand why a market maker would oppose what looks like a new source of volume, though he speculates the firms may want time to prepare or protect existing exchange economics. The others similarly reject the idea that major market makers need to learn how perps work, noting that many would move offshore volume into the U.S. if permitted.

Anthropic reports $17 billion in Q3 revenue

The hosts review Anthropic’s S-1 update: quarterly revenue rose from $11.5 billion in Q2 to $17 billion in Q3, roughly 50% quarter over quarter, although the company returned to a slight operating loss after being profitable in Q2. A new risk factor discusses recursive self-improvement, where an AI improves the next generation of AI and creates “dramatically accelerating progress.” The hosts joke that this sounds positive for the business, but conclude that it is framed as a regulatory or singularity risk rather than a straightforward commercial benefit.

Blue states threaten the U.S. data-center buildout

After the midterms, data-center and AI-related stocks moved in different directions: Anthropic’s prediction-market-linked shares rose, while NVIDIA, memory, and some chip-related names fell. Robert explains the bullish case for frontier labs: if new data centers are delayed, established hyperscalers and labs with compute already contracted face less competition and may avoid additional capital expenditure. Tarun counters that fewer data centers ultimately limit growth and says non-U.S. compute commitments have accelerated by roughly 100 times in two weeks. They also note that new Austin mayor Gina Hinojosa campaigned on slowing or imposing a moratorium on Texas data-center expansion.

The hosts propose The Chipping Block

As the conversation shifts from crypto toward AI infrastructure, the hosts joke about renaming the show The Chipping Block. The name would evoke slowly beating away at something rather than the single decisive execution implied by a guillotine-style chopping block. They connect the joke to the show’s gradual drift from crypto into adjacent frontier technologies, saying their principles and subject matter have been “slowly chipped away at.” The proposed name is not adopted, but it becomes a running description of the episode’s increasingly AI-heavy discussion.

Abliterated models become the latest fight over AI freedom

The Foundation for American Innovation published “The Obliteration Threat,” arguing that models modified to remove refusal behavior enable malicious actors and should expose their providers to serious liability or removal. Haseeb explains that security researchers use these models for red teaming and cyber defense because ordinary models often refuse defensive tasks; he compares a ban to prior restraint and draws parallels with First and Second Amendment arguments. Tarun and Tom say the models are effectively impossible to eliminate and should be distributed with clear use-specific safeguards. They expect a jurisdictional split similar to crypto, with U.S. providers restricting inference while foreign providers continue serving it.

Show notes

Welcome to The Chopping Block, where crypto insiders Haseeb Qureshi, Tom Schmidt, Tarun Chitra, and Robert Leshner chop it up about the latest in crypto. This week Haseeb is back in the host's chair after two weeks away.

The hosts start with a16z Crypto becoming a16z Frontier, and Robert remembers how Twitter bullied Paradigm for trying the same thing in 2023. Then the midterms: a blue mega tsunami that Polymarket had called at 99% by 7 PM, Robert's case that the polls missed the size of the wave yet again, and what a new Congress that is roughly 2:1 pro-crypto means when the next two years are about Trump corruption, World Liberty Financial, and Trump Coin. The CFTC clears single-stock perps and Cboe and Citadel sue within hours, which Tarun can't make sense of as a market maker. Anthropic's S-1 update adds recursive self-improvement as a risk factor, the data center states go blue, and Robert explains why hedge funds think less compute is good for the frontier labs. Finally, the Foundation for American Innovation calls abliterated AI models a threat, and the hosts argue that banning them is prior restraint in the middle of a cyber apocalypse.

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Show highlights

🔹 Haseeb is back after two weeks of Rob Hadick in his seat.

🔹 a16z Crypto is now a16z Frontier. Robert says when Paradigm tried the same thing in 2023, Twitter bullied it right back to crypto.

🔹 The midterms were a blue mega tsunami, and Polymarket had 99% on total control of Congress by 7 PM.

🔹 Robert says the polls underweighted the Democrats yet again, and the markets underpriced the wave because they tracked the polls.

🔹 Robert's one test for Trump on crypto: did he make America the crypto capital of the world? His answer: not really.

🔹 Haseeb runs the Stand With Crypto numbers: the new Congress is roughly 2:1 pro-crypto in both the House and the Senate.

🔹 Robert expects a pragmatic, moderate Congress, and close to zero chance of any crypto legislation in the next two years.

🔹 Tarun loves that Robert thinks Donald Trump believes in mean reversion.

🔹 Robert declares the show done talking about DC for two years. It lasts about a minute.

🔹 The CFTC clears single-stock perps, Cboe and Citadel sue within hours, and Tarun can't see why a market maker would turn down free volume.

🔹 Anthropic's S-1 update shows $17 billion in Q3 revenue and adds recursive self-improvement as a risk factor.

🔹 Robert explains why hedge funds think fewer new data centers is good for the frontier labs, and Tom says they bought all the chickens.

🔹 Tarun says the non-US compute build-out has 100X'd in two weeks.

🔹 Robert proposes renaming the show The Chipping Block.

🔹 FAI calls abliterated AI models a threat. Haseeb says security researchers depend on them, and banning them is prior restraint.

🔹 Tom went as Claude Hansen for Halloween, and Claude refused to write the prop.

Hosts

⭐️Haseeb Qureshi, Managing Partner at Dragonfly

⭐️Tom Schmidt, General Partner at Dragonfly

⭐️Tarun Chitra, Managing Partner at Robot Ventures

⭐️Robert Leshner, Founder & CEO of Superstate

Timestamps

00:00 Cold Open

00:41 Intro

02:51 a16z Goes Frontier

05:42 The Midterm Mega Tsunami

15:39 Crypto's New Congress

29:10 CFTC Clears Equity Perps

34:14 Anthropic's S-1 Update

35:35 Data Centers Go Blue

43:15 The Chipping Block

43:44 The Abliteration Threat

55:35 Wrap
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