The Steve Ballmer Interview

Jun 2, 2025 179m

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We sit down with Steve Ballmer, the legendary former Microsoft CEO and owner of the LA Clippers, for an epic conversation covering his 34 years at Microsoft. Steve listened to our Microsoft episodes and had some thoughts to share — and boy, did he deliver. Steve takes us point-by-point through the original IBM DOS deal that started everything, how he built Microsoft's enterprise business from scratch, and offers his candid reflections on missing mobile and search. We also cover the story behind “developers, developers, developers”, the complexities of his relationship with Bill Gates (including a year where they didn't speak), and why he ultimately decided to step down as CEO. Plus, we learn why Steve has held onto his Microsoft stock through it all — giving him arguably the best investment track record in the world over the last 10 years with his net worth growing from $20B to $130B since leaving. And of course, we couldn't resist also talking about his other passion: the Clippers and Intuit Dome. Hit play and get ready to experience the patented Steve Ballmer energy and fun on full display!

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Steve Ballmer’s Career at Microsoft

Steve Ballmer begins by discussing his remarkable journey at Microsoft, highlighting how he transformed the company after taking over from Bill Gates. He delves into significant business decisions and key moments, such as the pivotal IBM DOS deal that laid the foundation for Microsoft’s success. Ballmer reflects on the challenges of maintaining Microsoft’s dominance in the face of competition from emerging technologies and rivals.

Reflections on Key Business Strategies

Ballmer shares insights on the strategies that led to Microsoft's growth, particularly in the enterprise sector. He candidly discusses the missteps the company made in mobile and search, emphasizing the importance of adapting to changing market dynamics. He also addresses the significance of developer support and community engagement, noting his famous 'developers, developers, developers' mantra.

Transitioning from CEO to Philanthropist

Steve discusses his decision to step down as Microsoft CEO, citing the importance of emotional detachment and the need for new leadership as the company transitioned in a rapidly changing technological landscape. He reflects on his loyalty to Microsoft, his reasons for holding onto his stocks, and how he has since shifted his focus toward philanthropy, leveraging his wealth to make a positive impact.

Intuit Dome and Clippers Vision

The conversation shifts to Ballmer’s ownership of the LA Clippers and the creation of Intuit Dome. He articulates his vision for a state-of-the-art arena designed for hardcore basketball fans, emphasizing the importance of creating a loyal, energized atmosphere. Ballmer highlights the use of technology in enhancing the fan experience and the strategic advantages of his decisions regarding the arena.