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In this section, Jason Fried discusses the company's plans to leave their Chicago headquarters after a 10-year run. He explains the history of their space, the decision-making process behind moving out, and the considerations for future office arrangements. Jason emphasizes the flexible, remote-compatible approach the company has adopted, viewing a permanent office as a luxury rather than a necessity, especially given the changes in how they work.

This part covers the company's evolving needs and attitudes towards physical office space. Jason talks about how the current office, while luxurious and ideal for occasional use or hosting workshops, is largely underutilized, especially with a mostly remote team. He reflects on the costs, benefits, and emotional aspects of leaving a long-standing office, and the idea that a smaller or shared space might be more aligned with their current work style.

Jason recounts the history of the company's office spaces, from their initial setups in Carlos Segura's office to their move to several other spaces, culminating in the current large office. He highlights the tendency to sublet and share spaces over the years and contemplates whether they should rent or buy again, potentially returning to a smaller, more traditional Chicago building, like the one owned by Carlos Segura.

This section delves into plans for future office use, including sharing a space with other companies, downsizing, or even going fully remote. Jason discusses the notion of international and domestic travel costs, environmental impacts, and the practicality of maintaining a physical location versus embracing remote work. They consider the importance of having a central hub for gatherings and how physical space needs to adapt to the company’s growth and culture.

The hosts contemplate the emotional and cultural significance of their office space, acknowledging feelings of nostalgia and the chaos of moving. Jason articulates the idea that while spaces are important, they are ultimately just material, and change can be healthy and necessary for growth. The conversation emphasizes flexibility and the importance of reevaluating how and where work is done, aligning physical space with current company values.