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The New Rules of Power — with Anne Applebaum and Fiona Hill

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Key takeaways

  • Modern warfare is increasingly asymmetric, relying heavily on technological innovation like drones, which can shift the balance of power.
  • Authoritarian regimes like Russia and Iran are more fragile than they appear; internal dissent and miscalculations can lead to rapid change.
  • Soft power—alliances, institutions, societal resilience—has become more crucial than military expenditure in maintaining influence.
  • The decline of the U.S.'s influence as the dominant global operator system marks a significant shift in international power dynamics.
  • Future geopolitical stability depends on societal mobilization, technological innovation, and regional cooperation, rather than solely on military strength.

Summary

The Changing Landscape of Warfare and Power Dynamics

This section discusses the evolving nature of modern conflict, emphasizing the importance of asymmetry in warfare. The speakers highlight Ukraine's innovative drone capabilities and its shift from defense to offense as a strategic game-changer, transforming perceptions and perhaps outcomes of the conflict. They explore how Ukraine’s grassroots technological efforts have positioned it as a leader in military innovation, creating a new 'Silicon Valley' in defense technology. The discussion extends to Iran, where the regime’s leverage through strategic choke points like the Strait of Hormuz may persist or even strengthen, despite internal unrest and external pressures. The changing perceptions of U.S. military strength are also examined, with an emphasis on soft power and alliance-building being more critical than sheer military expenditure.

The Future of Russia and Iran in Geopolitics

This part analyses the internal political situation in Russia and Iran. In Russia, Putin’s grip on power appears fragile, with internal divisions and the potential for regime change if the war goes badly. The history of Russian upheavals suggests that autocratic regimes can crumble unexpectedly, and Putin is reportedly cautious about his vulnerabilities. Similarly, in Iran, widespread dissatisfaction and the regime’s internal struggles hint at possible future regime change, though the current regime maintains control through repression and military strength. The discussion concludes that both countries are navigating precarious positions, with Putin and Iran’s leaders under significant pressure, making their futures unpredictable.

The Shift from Hard to Soft Power and the New Rules of Influence

This theme explores the decline of American influence based solely on military might and the rise of soft power—alliances, values, institutions, and innovation—as the new currency of global influence. The speakers lament the U.S. abandonment of its traditional leadership roles and the rise of regional groupings that seek to decouple from U.S. dominance. Ukraine’s resilience and rapid innovation demonstrate how societal mobilization and technological agility can redefine national power. The conversation underscores that sustainable influence now depends more on societal strength and cooperation rather than just military assets.

Reflections on 12 Months Ahead and Lessons Learned

Looking to the future, the experts are cautious about exact predictions but note some likely developments: Ukraine will solidify its position as a regional technological hub, and Russia’s military fortunes will face significant constraints, possibly leading to regime instability. The speakers highlight the importance of societal resilience, innovation, and regional cooperation. They emphasize that authoritarian regimes, including Russia and Iran, are more fragile than they appear, especially if their internal unrest escalates or their leaders make miscalculations. The overarching lesson is that soft power, societal innovation, and strategic alliances are increasingly decisive in global influence and security.

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Show notes

For our 400th episode, Scott is joined by Anne Applebaum and Fiona Hill to discuss the wars in Ukraine and Iran, the future of global power, and what these conflicts reveal about America's role in the world.

They explore whether Ukraine is changing the future of warfare, how Vladimir Putin's position has evolved over the last year, and what might come next for Iran. They also discuss the strengths and weaknesses of authoritarian regimes, the importance of alliances, and why soft power may matter more than military power in the years ahead.

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