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Should I Turn Off the Internet? (Lessons From a Family That Did) | Monday Advice

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Key takeaways

  • Big, intentional changes can profoundly transform your life and deepen your personal fulfillment, especially when aligned with core values.
  • Creating dedicated 'Sabbath' spaces or times—free from digital devices—can help reclaim independence from pervasive technology and foster reflection, presence, and community.
  • Living deliberately often involves systemic planning—such as installing landlines or choosing physical media—to support a less connected lifestyle—small steps can achieve big results.
  • Work and personal boundaries are essential for a healthy, balanced life; setting clear expectations around communication (like email windows) can help maintain this distinction.
  • The most impactful life changes often come from working backwards from your ideal lifestyle, allowing unexpected but fulfilling opportunities to emerge.
  • Sharing your journey and principles with others via platforms like Substack can help build a community and inspire broader cultural shifts towards intentional living.

Summary

The Lifestyle Shift: Choosing to Disconnect

The episode opens with a discussion on the appeal of turning back time to a less connected era, specifically the 1990s, where digital distractions were minimal. Cal Newport interviews Chris Moody, a journalism professor who moved from urban NYC life to a remote cabin in Boone, North Carolina, intentionally disconnecting from the internet, cell service, and modern entertainment. Chris explains that this move was driven by a desire to find a more meaningful, less distraction-filled life, especially after witnessing how digital devices had eroded quality family and personal time. This intentional disconnection was deeply transformational, emphasizing a life where digital connection is a sanctuary from constant noise, allowing for deeper reflection and presence.

The Practicalities and Challenges of Living Offline

Chris details his life in a cabin with no internet or cell service, relying purely on a landline for external contact. He describes the shift from his high-paced journalistic career to a slower, more contemplative lifestyle involving nature, reading, writing, and meaningful family time. The episode discusses how this lifestyle influences work habits—such as setting boundaries for email responses and being more present—and raises the challenges, including reliance on community for urgent needs, managing health information without instant Google access, and balancing entertainment through deliberate selection of DVDs and books. Their setup highlights how such an off-grid life requires thoughtful planning, system setup, and a strong commitment to boundaries.

Impact on Family and Mental Well-being

A key benefit highlighted is how living without digital distractions enhances family relationships, especially in raising a young child. Chris shares that their son can focus better during activities, such as attending a dance performance or reading, because they limit digital exposure. They emphasize the importance of community involvement and outdoor activity for children’s health and social development. The absence of screens fosters deeper engagement and more meaningful interactions, though it also presents challenges like increased reliance on community and planning for healthcare or emergencies without instant access to online information.

Reflections on Work and Productivity in a Disconnection Era

Chris discusses how disconnecting from the internet improves focus and productivity during work hours, especially in academia where boundaries are often blurred. He notes that setting clear expectations around email responses and work hours helps maintain this separation. The experience also reduces burnout caused by constant distractions and interruptions, allowing for more focused, quality work, and enhances presence with students and colleagues. This part of the conversation underscores the benefits of boundaries and the importance of intentional work-life separation.

Lessons and Broader Reflections on Living Digitally Minimalist Lives

Chris emphasizes the importance of creating physical or temporal 'Sabbath spaces'—areas or times where digital devices are absent—to reclaim independence from the digital culture. He advocates for deliberate, systemic approaches, such as maintaining landlines, physical books, and DVDs, rather than just removing modern technology. The episode suggests that doing something radical—like disconnecting entirely—can lead to profound positive changes and that most people can benefit from establishing spaces and routines where they are shielded from constant digital engagement. The core lesson is about intentionality—restructuring your environment to prioritize genuine human experiences and reflection.

The Power of Working Backwards from an Ideal Lifestyle

The episode highlights the importance of working backwards from a clear vision of what a fulfilling, meaningful life looks like. Chris’s journey shows how unexpected opportunities and paths, like moving to a remote cabin or taking a teaching position at a small university, align with a consciously chosen lifestyle rather than traditional career trajectories. This lifestyle-centric planning allows for more authentic and fulfilling life choices, encouraging listeners to reflect on their own visions and design lives that prioritize depth, presence, and values over societal norms or material success.

Introducing 'The Opt Outers' and Future Projects

Chris shares that he and his wife started a Substack called 'The Opt Outers,' dedicated to sharing their experiences living off-grid and coaching others interested in digital minimalism. They aim to document their journey, share insights, and possibly develop a book. This ongoing project underscores their commitment to fostering a community around intentional living and encouraging others to consider similar paths. The episode concludes with a personal note on how their lifestyle continues to evolve, especially with their son, and how their approach remains about engaging with culture on their own terms, rather than rejecting it wholesale.

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Show notes

It’s a dream a lot of us have: to finally say “enough!”, and turn off the internet inside our homes, returning us to a lifestyle that requires more presence, introspection, and connection. But is this even possible? And what would it really be like? In this episode, Cal seeks answers to these questions by talking to Chris Moody, a journalism professor at Appalachian State, who lives with his wife and young son in a cabin with no internet, television, or cellular signal. 

 

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(0:00) Should I turn off the internet?

(3:28) Interview with Chris Moody

(1:02:58) Cal’s closing remarks

 

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Thanks to Jesse Miller for production and mastering, Jay Kerstens for the intro music, and Nate Mechler for research and newsletter.

 

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