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Using Existing Drugs in New Ways to Treat & Cure Diseases of Brain & Body | Dr. David Fajgenbaum

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Key takeaways

  • Many existing medications can be repurposed to effectively treat conditions other than the ones for which they were originally approved.
  • Advocating for oneself in healthcare and surrounding oneself with supportive friends, family, and community plays a critical role in navigating health challenges.
  • Artificial intelligence has the potential to transform healthcare by linking existing medications with diseases they can treat, speeding up the discovery of viable treatment options.
  • Preventative health measures and lifestyle changes are essential in maintaining health and could potentially reduce the incidence of serious diseases.
  • The work being done at Every Cure aims to ensure all patients have access to potentially life-saving treatments, facilitating collaboration among researchers, physicians, and the public.

Summary

Introduction of Dr. David Fajgenbaum

Dr. David Fajgenbaum, a professor of translational medicine and human genetics at the University of Pennsylvania, shares his inspiring story of overcoming Castleman's disease through repurposing existing drugs. He emphasizes that many approved medications could treat or cure diseases they were not originally designed for, which is crucial knowledge often overlooked by the medical community.

The Journey of Discovery and Hope

Dr. Fajgenbaum recounts his experience battling a life-threatening illness, highlighting moments of vulnerability, the importance of advocacy in healthcare, and his overwhelming hope for alternative treatments. After being told there were no options left, he dedicated his life to finding drugs that could potentially save him and others with similar conditions, starting a foundation to facilitate research and treatment access.

Role of Existing Medications in Treating Different Conditions

A significant part of the conversation revolves around the potential of existing medications impacting various diseases. Dr. Fajgenbaum discusses specific examples such as aspirin, lidocaine, and Viagra, explaining how they can be repurposed effectively. He also shares insights into how pharmaceutical companies may not prioritize the exploration of alternative uses for generics due to economic disincentives.

The Power of Social Support and Personal Advocacy

Dr. Fajgenbaum and Andrew discuss the crucial role of social support in navigating health challenges. They emphasize the strength derived from family, friends, and community support in one’s health journey, indicating that active involvement in one’s health decisions is vital. The importance of questions and connections during health crises is underscored, promoting self-advocacy as a key factor in treatment outcomes.

Innovative Uses for AI in Healthcare

The podcast delves into the potential of artificial intelligence to identify effective drug repurposing opportunities, aiming to match existing drugs with diseases they could help treat. Dr. Fajgenbaum illustrates how AI technologies can be utilized to advance medical applications and swiftly recognize effective drug interactions to benefit patients.

Exploring Preventative Health Through Lifestyle and Medications

Towards the end of the podcast, they touch on the significance of preventative health measures. Dr. Fajgenbaum shares how modifiable lifestyle factors, science-backed supplements like GLP1 agonists, and nutraceuticals might positively impact health and longevity.

Engaging with Every Cure

Listeners are encouraged to engage with Every Cure by submitting ideas, collaborating, or donating. Dr. Fajgenbaum emphasizes the importance of collective efforts in advancing medical science to ensure all patients have access to potentially beneficial treatments.

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Show notes

My guest is Dr. David Fajgenbaum, MD, professor of translational medicine and human genetics at the University of Pennsylvania. He explains how, unbeknownst to most doctors, many approved medications can successfully treat or even cure diseases other than the ones they are typically used to treat. He shares his story of escaping death from Castleman's disease by discovering a life-saving treatment using repurposed drugs that were approved for other purposes. Our conversation explores how researchers, physicians, and you—the general public—can explore novel treatments and cures to conditions the medical profession has deemed untreatable, including cancers. We also discuss the crucial role of mindset in battling diseases and the lesser-known use of compounds to promote health and longevity.

Read the episode show notes at hubermanlab.com.

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Timestamps

(0:00) David Fajgenbaum

(4:06) Self-Agency in Healthcare; New Uses for Old Medicines

(6:44) Other Uses of Aspirin & Viagra; Drug Development & Approved Use

(8:53) Lidocaine & Breast Cancer; Pharmaceutical Companies & Incentives

(11:36) Sponsors: Eight Sleep & Rorra

(14:16) Pharmaceutical Companies, Patents & New Uses; Lithium

(18:40) Tools: Finding Reliable Health Sources, Asking Questions & Disease Organizations; DADA2 Treatment

(21:53) Medical Community & Connections; Integrated Medical Databases

(24:36) Drug Repurposing, Thalidomide, Pembrolizumab

(28:45) Medical Research Databases, Mapping Disease Connections

(33:51) Every Cure Database & Programs, Bachmann-Bupp Syndrome; Colchicine & Heart Disease

(37:57) Sponsors: AGZ by AG1 & David

(40:41) David’s Medical & Career Journey, Glioblastoma, Castleman Disease

(49:10) Autoimmune Disease, Driven Personality, Stress & Immune System

(52:52) Castleman Disease, Treatment, Chemotherapy

(55:54) Physician Continuing Education, Santa Claus Theory of Civilization; Science Collaboration

(1:03:32) Medical School, Relapse & “Overtime”, Finding a New Treatment, Rapamycin

(1:12:46) Sport, Football & Resilience; Challenge & Personal Growth, Family

(1:18:41) Sponsor: Function

(1:20:29) Social Support; “Overtime”, Gratitude

(1:23:19) Business School, Castleman Disease Treatment; Repurposing Drugs & AI

(1:28:29) Drug Repurposing, POEMS Syndrome; Mitigating Risk

(1:35:32) Nicotine, Compounds for Preventive Health; GLP-1 Agonists

(1:40:51) Bioprospecting, Drug Development; AI, Prioritization & Novel Connections

(1:46:18) Healthcare & Children; Hope, Action & Impact Circuit; Challenge & Super-Agers

(1:52:50) Get Involved with Every Cure

(1:56:20) Zero-Cost Support, YouTube, Spotify & Apple Follow, Reviews & Feedback, Sponsors, Protocols Book, Social Media, Neural Network Newsletter

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