How I built a 1M+ subscriber newsletter and top 10 tech podcast | Lenny Rachitsky
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Key takeaways
- The best advice often comes from practitioners in the field, not just theoretical sources.
- Adding a paywall became a significant turning point in Lenny's newsletter journey, demonstrating that value can be monetized.
- Consistency in content production can be both rewarding and stressful, requiring effective stress management strategies.
- Personal stories, like childbirth experiences, can provide deep insights and connections in content creation.
- Visual content should be simple and relatable to resonate with audiences, often taking multiple iterations to perfect.
- Recognizing the balance between public persona and personal life is crucial for creators.
- Experiencing life and integrating those experiences into your work can lead to more meaningful and impactful content.
Summary
Introduction and Role Reversal
In this special episode, Lenny Rachitsky switches roles with his wife, Michelle Rial, as she interviews him about his journey in creating a successful newsletter and top tech podcast. Michelle asks probing questions, providing a personal and candid look at Lenny's experiences in writing and content creation.
Building a Newsletter and Podcast
Lenny reflects on how he built a newsletter that now has over 1.2 million subscribers. He discusses the importance of practical experience in shaping his newsletter content, citing the wisdom shared by practitioners rather than theorists. He also shares the moment he decided to add a paywall to his newsletter and how that significantly changed the trajectory of his writing.
Stress and the Treadmill of Content Production
Lenny talks about the pressure of consistently producing content, comparing it to an Indiana Jones-like boulder chasing him. He explores the stresses of business life and how he manages personal stress, including his experience with misophonia (a sensitivity to certain sounds). He highlights his threshold for stress and the lessons learned from various experiences.
Special Moments and Personal Stories
Lenny shares noteworthy personal experiences, such as the impactful meditation trip that inspired his writing journey and the emotional challenges faced during his wife’s childbirth. He recounts the fear and uncertainty surrounding an emergency during delivery, illustrating vulnerability in his professional and personal life.
The Art of Creating Shareable Content
Michelle inquires about the creative processes behind Lenny's successful charts and articles. They discuss how life experiences fuel creativity and the importance of iteration and refinement in producing quality content. Lenny explains his process of reaching audiences with relatable content.
Navigating Recognition and Public Life
The couple talks about the reality of Lenny being recognized in public due to his online persona. He shares both the delight and adjustments he has had to make in coping with public recognition, touching upon issues like face blindness and how it complicates interactions with fans and followers.
The Transition to Children’s Books
Michelle discusses her new children’s book, 'Charts for Babies,' and the motivations behind writing it. Lenny and Michelle connect personal experiences with their respective creative processes and how they've integrated parenting lessons into their work.
Sponsors
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- DX · The developer intelligence platform designed by leading researchers.
Show notes
People have been asking me to sit on the other side of the mic for a long time. With my wife’s debut children’s book, Charts for Babies, coming out next month, we figured: why not do it together? What followed was one of the most honest conversations I’ve had on this podcast. Michelle asked things no one else would think to ask—and many things I’ve never shared publicly. You’ll hear about the specific moments that pushed me to start the newsletter, how I think about quality and iteration, what most stresses me out, and the scariest moment of my life. This was so fun, and so special, and I hope you like it.
We discuss:
1. The collection of moments that led me to what I do now
2. When I added a paywall, and how I knew it was working
3. The hidden treadmill behind shipping a newsletter post and podcast episode every week
4. The most stressful moments I’ve had in business and in life
5. How I think about stress, consistency, and keeping the business small
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Pre-order Charts for Babies: https://www.amazon.com/Charts-Babies-Picture-Book/dp/1419785184
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Brought to you by:
WorkOS—Modern identity platform for B2B SaaS, free up to 1 million MAUs: https://workos.com/lenny
Metaview—The AI platform for recruiting: https://metaview.ai/lenny
DX—The developer intelligence platform designed by leading researchers: https://getdx.com/lenny
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Episode transcript: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/how-i-built-a-1m-subscriber-newsletter
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Archive of all Lenny's Podcast transcripts: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fo/yxi4s2w998p1gvtpu4193/AMdNPR8AOw0lMklwtnC0TrQ?rlkey=j06x0nipoti519e0xgm23zsn9&st=ahz0fj11&dl=0
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Where to find Michelle Rial:
• X: https://x.com/TheRialMichelle
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michellerial
• Website: https://www.michellerial.com
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Where to find Lenny:
• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com
• X: https://twitter.com/lennysan
• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/
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In this episode, we cover:
(00:00) Introduction and role reversal
(04:06) What would Lenny be doing without the newsletter?
(07:20) The moments that led to starting the newsletter
(09:58) Does Lenny still enjoy the work?
(12:42) Stress management and misophonia
(14:00) The psychedelic trip that changed everything
(15:45) Online happiness course and baseline optimization
(17:30) Thunder round: Lenny’s misophonia worst sounds
(20:20) What makes Michelle’s charts so shareable
(23:55) Where chart ideas come from (and why meditation helps)
(26:59) Where does “Lenny” come from?
(28:54) Being recognized in public
(31:24) Early projects
(36:30) Michelle and Lenny’s yin and yang
(37:49) Missing office culture (but not really)
(39:37) Lenny’s face blindness
(40:47) The $100M fraud attack story
(42:50) Michelle’s childbirth emergency
(47:22) Michelle’s creative process
(51:58) Lenny’s favorite children’s books
(54:00) Product management lessons in parenting
(55:31) Defining product management in five words
(58:23) Why Michelle pivoted to children’s books
(01:01:30) The power of iteration and real experience
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Resources and episode mentions: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/how-i-built-a-1m-subscriber-newsletter
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Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email [email protected].
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