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Apple's new iPhones and Watches are better than the last ones

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Key takeaways

  • The iPhone 18 Pro offers incremental camera improvements, notably a mechanical variable aperture and a brighter lens, but the practical benefits are subtle for most users.
  • The new Apple Watch Series 12 introduces significant health and AI features, including more sensors, health metrics like 'readiness score,' and upcoming AI functionalities like live audio rewind, with privacy measures in place.
  • AI features on the Apple Watch are under development, with privacy and user trust being key considerations; some features will be opt-in and processed securely on the device.
  • Upgrading from much older models (Series 6 or earlier) may be worthwhile, but recent models like Series 9 or 10 are still very capable and might not require immediate replacement.
  • Consumers should critically assess the value of 'health age' metrics, recognizing their motivational intentions but also their superficial nature, and focus on real health improvements over superficial stats.

Summary

Introduction and Podcast Format

The hosts, Allison Johnson and Victoria Song, introduce the episode with a humorous twist, each taking on the roles of host and guest as they discuss the latest Apple devices, specifically the iPhone 18 Pro and the Apple Watch Series 12. They also briefly mention other tech and cultural topics.

The iPhone 18 Pro Review: Similarities and New Features

Allison reviews the iPhone 18 Pro, noting its close resemblance to the previous generation, with minor internal updates such as a new mechanical variable aperture in the main camera, slightly larger batteries, and new software features like iOS 27. She explains the significance of the variable aperture, its practical benefits, and the limited noticeable difference in everyday usage. The discussion covers compatibility of cases and the modest improvements in camera capabilities.

The Apple Watch Series 12 and Ultra 4 Updates

Victoria describes the new features of the Watch Series 12, highlighting the upgraded sensor array with more electrodes, improved energy efficiency, and more frequent heart rate sampling. She discusses the new colors, materials like ceramic, and the increased battery life. Additional health-related features include a new 'readiness score' for stress and recovery, and advanced AI features such as 'live rewind' and 'Siri recap' that are slated for future release, emphasizing privacy considerations.

Deep Dive into AI and Privacy Features

The hosts explore Apple's new AI features, including audio intelligence like live rewind and Siri recap, which are currently not available but are under development. They clarify how these features work with privacy safeguards, such as on-device processing and data deletion policies. The potential applications and concerns about privacy and user perception are discussed, highlighting the careful approach Apple is taking.

Health Features and Metrics, Including 'Health Age'

The discussion covers new health metrics introduced with the latest Apple Watch, including a 'readiness score' based on heart rate variability and other vital signs, intended to guide users on daily stress and recovery. Victoria criticizes the concept of 'health age,' suggesting it can be misleading and superficial, but acknowledges its potential motivational value. The conversation emphasizes that these tools are meant to assist, not replace, personal judgment.

Recommendations on Upgrading and Final Thoughts

The hosts provide guidance on who should consider upgrading to the new devices, suggesting that owners of older models (especially Series 6 or earlier) would benefit most, while recent models may see marginal improvements. They touch on the cost increase and the eco-friendliness of buying refurbished or last year's models. The episode concludes with a light note about future Apple products and an invitation for listener feedback.

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Show notes

Senior reviewers Allison Johnson and Victoria Song trade host and guest duties in a Vergecasting ouroboros that's never been attempted before and will probably never be attempted again. Allison talks about the iPhone 18 Pro's new camera, Victoria talks about the Watch 12 and Ultra 4's new sensors, and they both give their verdicts on who should upgrade.

Further reading:

The iPhone 18 Pro’s big camera update is all about the small gains

The Apple Watch Series 12 is the start of a new wearable era

Your ‘health age’ is fake

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