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The Razr Ultra proves flip phones are almost ready

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Key takeaways

  • The Motorola Razr Ultra represents a significant improvement in flip phone technology, closing the gap with traditional smartphones.
  • Snapchat is facing challenges in monetizing its messaging platform while retaining user engagement, raising questions about the viability of chat-based business models.
  • The outcome of the Google antitrust trial could significantly impact the future of Chrome and the competitive landscape of web browsers and search engines.

Summary

The Rise of Flip Phones: The Motorola Razr Ultra

David Pierce and Allison Johnson discuss the Motorola Razr Ultra, highlighting its high-end design and improved features such as upgraded cameras and a Snapdragon 8 Elite processor. They explore the appeal of flip phones, suggesting a possible resurgence in the market as consumers seek alternatives to regular smartphones. The Razr Ultra marks significant improvements in spec and user experience, making it a compelling option for those considering flip phones.

Snapchat's Struggles and Potential Solutions

Alex Heath joins the conversation to delve into Snapchat's ongoing challenges and its attempts to simplify the app experience amid declining user engagement in North America. The discussion includes insights into the app’s history, particularly its attempts to compete with TikTok and Reels, and the complexities of monetizing messaging features without alienating users. They speculate on whether there is a sustainable business model for chat apps and ponder the broader implications for Snapchat's future.

The Future of Chrome and Antitrust Challenges

The Vergecast tackles questions about the potential fate of Chrome following the DOJ's antitrust trial against Google. The conversation highlights the challenges of breaking Google's dominance in search and whether the government might force Google to divest Chrome. They address the complexities of such a move, exploring how it could either create a new competitor or simply transfer power to another tech giant.

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Show notes

Kids these days, you know? They love the '90s, they want everything to be colorful and bold and bouncy, and they really, truly love Snapchat. And the tech world is listening. On this episode, The Verge's Allison Johnson joins to talk about her review of the new Razr Ultra, the new-look Android 16, and why she thinks we're getting ever closer to a true flip phone resurgence. (Also: why we're not quite there yet.) After that, The Verge's Alex Heath explains what's going on with Snapchat, and how it's possible that the app is more popular than ever but still can't figure out how to cash in. It all makes us wonder: is there a business in chat at all? Finally, we answer a question on the Vergecast Hotline (call 866-VERGE11 or email vergecast@theverge.com!) about a possible outcome for Chrome after the Google search trial ends.

Further reading:

Motorola Razr Ultra (2025) review: looking sharp

The best folding phones you can buy

Android’s youthful new design language just dropped

Snapchat scraps ‘simple’ redesign as it loses users in North America

Zuckerberg offered to buy Snapchat for $6 billion.

Evan Spiegel explains why Snap is betting on Spectacles

Breaking down the DOJ’s plan to end Google’s search monopoly

Why are companies lining up to buy Chrome?

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