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TIP837: Adobe, Lululemon, PayPal – Are our Biggest Losers a Buy Now? w/ Daniel Mahncke & Shawn O’Malley
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Key takeaways
- Always learn from past mistakes by reviewing and analyzing previous investments to improve future decisions.
- Trust your gut feelings and qualitative understanding of a business when quantitative models and valuation metrics conflict or make you uncomfortable.
- Managing position sizes is crucial—avoid over-concentrating in stocks and be prepared to cut losses when the market narrative or fundamentals change.
- Management changes, leadership departures, and shifts in strategy or sentiment can be early warning signs of underlying problems in a company.
- Behavioral biases such as anchoring, commitment, and public perception significantly influence investment decisions—awareness and discipline are necessary to avoid pitfalls.
- Market sentiment often amplifies price movements away from fundamental values, so maintaining a long-term perspective and understanding business quality is essential.
- Regularly re-assess your portfolio and its holdings, especially after significant market or company-specific events, to ensure your views remain consistent with your research and long-term goals.
Summary
Introduction and Episode Overview
The hosts, Daniel Mahncke and Shawn O'Malley, celebrate the 90th episode of their stock research series, reflecting on past investments and mistakes. They emphasize the importance of reviewing previous stock pitches, especially the ones that tanked, to learn valuable lessons. The episode sets the tone for a reflective analysis of their previous stock picks and the market's shift towards AI.
Portfolio Management and Stock Updates
The hosts discuss their intrinsic value portfolio, which is managed jointly but requires each stock to be owned by at least one host. They go through several stocks, mainly focusing on those that performed poorly, such as Lululemon, PayPal, Adobe, Trade Desk, and CoStar. Each stock’s thesis, reasons for selling or holding, and lessons learned are explored in detail. They emphasize the importance of understanding management changes, valuation, and market sentiment in investment decisions.
Lessons from Key Stock Holdings and Market Shifts
Throughout their analysis, the hosts highlight critical lessons including the importance of: trusting gut feelings over models when uncertain, managing position sizes, avoiding emotional attachment to investments, and understanding the impact of management changes. They reflect on how market narratives and sentiment heavily influence stock performance and their own decision making, especially with stocks like Adobe and PayPal amid leadership changes and strategic shifts.
The Role of Market Sentiment and Behavioral Biases
The hosts discuss cognitive biases such as anchoring, commitment, and the influence of public perception. They acknowledge the challenge of acting on management signals and sentiment, and emphasize the need to balance qualitative understanding with quantitative valuation. They share insights on how public and management optimism or pessimism can sway their investment strategies.
Case Studies and Specific Stock Analyses
Detailed discussions on individual companies like Adobe, Lululemon, PayPal, Trade Desk, and CoStar illustrate their investment reasoning, mistakes, and lessons learned. They analyze disruptions, management departures, valuation changes, and market perception, providing a nuanced view of why some stocks are avoided, held, or added to the portfolio.
Reflections and Future Approach
The hosts conclude with reflections on managing investments publicly versus privately, the importance of patience, and the need for periodic portfolio re-evaluation. They emphasize learning from mistakes, trusting the research process, and being more disciplined in both portfolio construction and reaction to news. The episode ends with a quote from Peter Lynch about the nature of successful investing.
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Show notes
Daniel Mahncke and Shawn O’Malley take a trip down memory lane and look back at the pitches of the last year and a half – especially the ones that didn’t work out as hoped. Many companies that were seen as best-in-class businesses not too long ago experienced massive drawdowns in the last year. Some of them were covered on this show, and others even made it into the portfolio.
Daniel and Shawn discuss the patterns of the stocks that lost most in value, what one can learn from that, and how the market shift towards AI changed how they invest. The companies discussed today are Adobe, Lululemon, PayPal, Trade Desk, and CoStar.
IN THIS EPISODE YOU’LL LEARN:
(00:00:00) Intro
(00:04:33) Why Lululemon had to leave the portfolio
(00:20:11) What made us sell PayPal
(00:36:08) About Adobe’s downfall and future outlook
(00:58:40) Why Trade Desk never made it into the portfolio
(01:06:53) Whether Daniel’s and Shawn’s conviction in CoStar is broken
(01:16:37) What Daniel and Shawn learned from the companies above
Disclaimer: Slight discrepancies in the timestamps may occur due to podcast platform differences.
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