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$10M Net Worth. $2.5M Cashflow. No Plans to Exit.

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Key takeaways

  • Wealth is multifaceted; it's not just about money but also about health, relationships, and purpose.
  • Control and mindset are more valuable than chasing an exit; wealth can be redefined to fit personal values.
  • Internal work, therapy, and self-awareness are crucial in shifting from a scarcity to an abundance mindset.
  • Living consciously and in the moment enhances life experiences and personal satisfaction.
  • High net worth individuals often prioritize lifestyle and freedom over external markers of success.

Summary

Reevaluating the Goal of Exiting a Business

The podcast begins with the provocative question of whether exiting a business should be the primary goal. Jay Barad reflects on his own journey, emphasizing that both fear and the desire for freedom can be limiting forces. He discusses his shift towards confidence and positive mindset, moving away from fear-based motivation to one driven by control and purpose. This section explores the idea that continuous growth and enjoying the current life may be more valuable than chasing an exit.

Jay’s Financial Philosophy and Wealth Composition

Jay values his business equity as zero because he has no plans to sell it, preferring control over traditional exit strategies. He details his investments, including $8.5M in liquid assets, mostly in public equities, crypto, and some private deals. His private real estate is modestly valued, emphasizing that his real wealth lies in his cash flow (~$2.5M annually) and his ability to live comfortably within a lean expense structure. He also discusses his approach to valuation multiples in the agency space, favoring organic growth over acquisitions.

Personal Journey and Mindset Shifts in Wealth and Success

Jay recounts his early struggles, from a startup in Winnipeg to moving to Vancouver after a Craigslist decision, and his initial naive approach to career and money. Major turning points included facing fear, failures, and the realization that internal mindset matters as much as external success. He discusses overcoming fear, shifting from a scarcity mindset to one of abundance, and the importance of internal work, therapy, and mindset work in transforming his relationship with money and wealth.

Work, Travel, and Unplugging: Maintaining Balance

Jay shares insights on balancing a high income and an active travel lifestyle with the need to unplug and disconnect. He emphasizes the importance of a capable team allowing him to step back, travel, and enjoy life. His experiences range from backpacking at 21 to luxurious travel, all while maintaining a focus on present-moment awareness and the importance of doing things now rather than delaying for the future.

Living a Big Life and Defining Wealth

Jay's definition of a big life revolves around waking up excited every day, making a positive impact, and building a legacy through meaningful interactions and experiences. He values living actively and intentionally, with less concern about external status symbols like private jets, and more focus on personal growth, contribution, and happiness. His future goal includes achieving a $100M net worth, primarily through business ventures, alongside the ongoing pursuit of a fulfilling, adventurous life.

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127 founders (net worth: ~$1M–$100M+) opened up their personal books. Want to see how your finances stack up? https://www.joinhampton.com/wealth-report


Jay Berard’s never sold a company, but with $2.5M in cashflow and $10M net worth, is he confidence-rich or risk-blind?"


Here’s what we talk about:

  • His early days: a Craigslist job ad, 100% commission, no safety net… and a one-way ticket from Winnipeg.
  • Jay’s net worth: ~$10M, mostly liquid, mostly public equities, and why he values his business equity at zero.
  • He makes ~$2.5M/year in personal cash flow, but keeps fixed expenses surprisingly lean.
  • Why he turned down acquisition offers and sees more value in control than an exit.
  • From saving every penny to flying business class to how his spending evolved with his mindset.
  • Why “rich” should mean more than just money and how he’s redefining wealth on his terms.
  • What a “big life” really means and the tension between comfort and growth he’s wrestling with today.


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Chapters:

(01:19) Jay's Financial Philosophy

(05:07) Personal Cash Flow and Lifestyle

(06:32) The Concept of Safety Net

(12:50) Early Career Struggles and Successes

(17:48) The Role of Fear and Anxiety in Success

(21:35) Struggling with Consistency

(22:12) Deep Work and Self-Improvement

(25:20) Revenue Journey and Business Growth

(32:19) Balancing Work and Personal Life

(35:49) Defining Success and Living a Big Life

(38:42) Future Goals and Business Aspirations


This podcast is a ridiculous concept: high-net-worth people reveal their personal finances. Inspired by real conversations happening in the Hampton community.


Your Host: Harry Morton

  • Founder of Lower Street, a podcast production company helping brands launch and grow top-tier podcasts.
  • Co-parents a cow named Eliza.

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