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Tips to Help your Child Choose a College | Jeff Selingo, Dad of 2

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Key takeaways

  • College admissions today require a broader view beyond traditional prestige, focusing on fit and individual needs.
  • The 'Moneyball' approach helps families strategically choose colleges based on value and return on investment (ROI).
  • Parents play a crucial role in guiding their children's college decisions but should avoid undue influence from societal expectations.
  • Future changes in education, including technology and financial pressures, will shape the landscape of higher education.
  • Tools like the College Scorecard can help parents and students evaluate colleges effectively.

Summary

The Modern College Admissions Landscape

Jeff Selingo discusses the complexities of college admissions today, emphasizing the pressing challenges students and parents face. He highlights the growing number of applications due to increased anxiety, allowing students to apply to multiple colleges via platforms like the Common App. The interview underscores the shift from aspiring to Ivy League schools to the importance of finding a school that fits individual needs.

Understanding 'Dream Schools'

The concept of 'Dream Schools' is explored, which isn't about prestige but rather about finding the best fit for students. Selingo advises families to consider factors like teaching style, campus culture, and opportunities for professional experience over brand names. He argues that fit is more critical than the reputation of the institution.

The Moneyball Approach to College Selection

Selingo draws parallels between sports analytics and college selection, encouraging families to assess schools based on ROI and merit aid. He discusses how this approach allows families to identify underappreciated colleges that can provide both value and a positive educational experience.

The Role of Parents in College Decision-Making

The influence of parents in the college admissions process is discussed, with Selingo noting the pressure many parents feel regarding prestige and the perception of success. He advises parents to guide rather than dictate their child's decision, highlighting the importance of allowing kids to explore their options.

Future Changes in Higher Education

Selingo anticipates future shifts in college admissions and education due to societal changes, technology including AI, and market demands. He stresses the need for colleges to adapt to changing student demographics and the need for financial sustainability, hinting at a potential recalibration of costs and outputs in the university landscape.

Sponsors

  • Jeff Selingo · Bestselling author and education expert discussing his book 'Dream School: Finding the College That's Right for You.'
  • College Confidential · A resource for college admissions information.
  • Reddit Threads on College Admissions · A platform for students and parents to exchange college admissions information.
  • Next Newsletter by Jeff Selingo · A bi-weekly newsletter by Jeff Selingo discussing higher education.
  • Future U Podcast · Podcast co-hosted by Jeff Selingo focusing on higher education.
  • Dream School · Jeff's new book on college admissions and finding the right fit.
  • College Scorecard · A valuable tool for assessing ROI in college education.
  • Us News and World Report · A key player in college rankings and admissions information.

Show notes

In this episode of Startup Dad, Adam Fishman sits down with Jeff Selingo, a bestselling author, journalist and education expert, to discuss the complexities of college admissions and how parents can help their kids find their "Dream School." Jeff has spent over two decades researching higher education and is the author of Dream School: Finding the College That's Right for You, Who Gets in and Why: A Year Inside College Admissions, There Is Life After College: What Parents and Students Should Know About Navigating School to Prepare for the Jobs of Tomorrow, and College Unbound:  The Future of Higher Education and What it Means for Students.  As a dad of two nearly college-bound kids, Jeff offers a unique perspective on navigating the college decision-making process from the lens of a parent and expert. We discussed:

  • Breaking down the college admissions process: Why it’s important to look beyond the Ivy League schools and focus on the best fit for your child.
  • The concept of "Dream Schools": What makes a school the right fit and how to identify it.
  • Parents' influence on the process: How societal pressures and the desire for prestige can shape college decisions.
  • Finding value in education: The importance of ROI, Merit Aid, and balancing prestige with affordability.
  • Tools for parents: Resources like the College Scorecard and how to use them to make informed decisions.


Where to find Jeff Selingo

Where to find Adam Fishman


In this episode, we cover:

(00:00) Introducing Jeff Selingo

(02:22) Inspiration behind Dream School

(06:45) The college application boom

(08:59) The role of colleges in the application frenzy

(14:20) The Moneyball approach to college selection

(18:49) Early decision and early action explained

(23:17) Parents' role in college admissions

(25:16) Research insights from 'Dream School'

(28:54) Skipping over rankings

(29:19) The value of college prestige

(30:04) Choosing a major for the right reasons

(31:51) Defining your dream school

(33:14) Underappreciated factors in college fit

(35:15) Addressing neurodiversity in college admissions

(37:16) Examples of lesser-known dream schools

(42:43) Future outlook on college education

(50:55) Lightning Round: Quick takes on college myths and advice for parents

Resources From This Episode:


Dream School: Finding the College That's Right for You: https://jeffselingo.com/books/dreamschool/
College Confidential: https://collegeconfidential.com/
Reddit Threads on College Admissions: https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/
Next Newsletter by Jeff Selingo: https://jeffselingo.com/next-newsletter/
Future U Podcast: https://www.futureupodcast.com/
Dickinson College: https://www.dickinson.edu/
St. Olaf College: https://wp.stolaf.edu/
Denison University: https://denison.edu/
Furman University: https://www.furman.edu/
Michigan State University: https://msu.edu/
Barrett Honors College at Arizona State University: https://barretthonors.asu.edu/ 

SEC: https://www.sec.gov/ 

Arizona State University: https://www.asu.edu/ 

Gordian Knot: https://www.britannica.com/topic/Gordian-knot 

Who Gets In and Why: https://jeffselingo.com/books/who-gets-in-and-why/

Common App: https://www.commonapp.org/

Us News and World Report: https://www.usnews.com/

Bill Royall: https://news.vcu.edu/article/Bill_Royall_former_vice_rector_of_the_VCU_Board_of_Visitors_and

Moneyball Book: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1301.Moneyball

Moneyball Movie: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1210166/

New York Yankees: https://www.mlb.com/yankees

College Scorecard: https://collegescorecard.ed.gov/

UCLA: https://www.ucla.edu/

Harvard: https://www.harvard.edu/ 

Yale: https://www.yale.edu/ 

Princeton: https://www.princeton.edu/ 

Stanford: https://www.stanford.edu/

Ithaca College: https://www.ithaca.edu/

Toy Story: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114709/

Karate Kid: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087538/ 

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