The Talk Show With John Gruber
176: ‘Frolic’ With Craig Hockenberry
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Craig Hockenberry returns to the show with his gigantic fleshy palms. Topics include Donald Trump's highly publicized meeting with a handful of U.S. tech company leaders (including Tim Cook), the release of Nintendo's Super Mario Run for iPhone, Uber's autonomous car that was caught cruising straight through a red light in San Francisco, and Craig's excellent new book, *[Making Sense of Color Management](https://abookapart.com/products/making-sense-of-color-management)*.