The Talk Show With John Gruber

138: ‘I’ve Been Using Mine More in Bed’ With Joanna Stern

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Joanna Stern returns to the show to talk about the iPad Pro, Microsoft's Surface Pro 4 and Surface Book, what's going on with Yahoo (spoiler: not much), how best to sell old iPhones when upgrading, and Mark Zuckerberg promising to donate 99 percent of his fortune to charitable causes.

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