The Talk Show With John Gruber

160: ‘Fresh Out of Prison’ With Nilay Patel

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Special guest Nilay Patel joins the show. Topics include The Verge and Recode (and the state of the media industry at large), what’s going on with the lack of updates to professional Mac hardware, and, of course, Apple’s purported removal of the headphone jack on the upcoming new iPhones.

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