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Your Thermostat Is Reading the Wall - Short #308

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Key takeaways

  • Thermostats are affected by radiant, convective, and conductive heat, so their readings can be distorted by external factors.
  • Always compare the thermostat reading to a trusted thermometer placed at the same height and away from direct heat sources.
  • Inspect behind the thermostat for unsealed wall cavities or air leaks that could influence temperature readings.
  • Using infrared thermometers or thermal imagers can help identify warm surfaces or walls affecting thermostat accuracy.
  • Small discrepancies in readings might be caused by offsets or manufacturer algorithms and do not necessarily mean the thermostat is faulty.
  • Proper environmental measurement and patience are essential before replacing a thermostat due to apparent misreading.
  • Relocating thermostats or installing remote sensors can improve accuracy if the current placement is problematic.
  • Addressing underlying air leaks or insulation issues offers a more permanent solution than simply replacing thermostats.

Summary

The Fundamentals of Thermostat Mechanics and Sensors

The episode begins with an overview of what a thermostat is: an instrument designed to read temperature and sometimes humidity. The host explains that most thermostats use thermistors—resistors that change resistance with temperature—highlighting their low mass and susceptibility to heat transfer through radiation, convection, and conduction. He emphasizes that these factors, exposure to warm or cold surfaces, and airflow can influence the sensor's reading. A key point is that any matter, including wires and the thermostat body, can affect the sensor if it heats up from external sources. The conversation continues with an analogy comparing outdoor temperature measurement to daytime sun exposure, illustrating how external influences distort actual readings. The host stresses that even if the thermostat’s body heats due to proximity to a hot wall or sunlight, this does not necessarily mean the sensor itself is faulty, but it can cause incorrect temperature readings which lead to unnecessary a/c operation. He encourages technicians to consider these physical influences when diagnosing thermostat issues.

Diagnosing Wall and Wall Cavity Influences on Thermostat Readings

The episode advises technicians to gather customer feedback to identify potential thermostat problems, considering how timing and specific rooms can hint at underlying issues. A significant focus is on inspecting behind the thermostat for air leaks or wiring penetrations that may allow unconditioned air to influence the sensor. The host discusses the importance of checking for air movement through openings and the impact of leaks or unsealed cavities that communicate with attics or unconditioned areas. Additionally, he stresses the importance of establishing whether temperature differences and airflow paths are causing the thermostat to misread the ambient air temperature. Techniques such as using a reliable temperature probe placed away from direct sunlight or electronic components are recommended. The host mentions using infrared thermometers and thermal imagers to identify warm surfaces, especially behind thermostats, to reveal conduction or radiant heat sources affecting readings.

Proper Measurement Techniques and Troubleshooting Strategies

The host stresses the importance of accurate measurement by comparing the thermostat's reading with a trusted thermometer placed at the same height and away from direct heat sources or electronics. He emphasizes patience, allowing the system to stabilize before taking measurements, and recommends taking multiple readings with different probes or sensors to verify accuracy. If discrepancies are observed between measurements, further investigation into potential causes like warm walls or external heat sources is advised. He discusses the limitations of infrared thermometers and thermal imaging, noting they only measure surface temperatures, not air temperatures, and advises caution when interpreting these readings. The episode highlights the significance of understanding whether the thermostat's sensors are in different locations and how built-in offsets or algorithms may influence readings. The importance of documenting any adjustments or changes before altering thermostat settings is stressed to avoid confusion later. Lastly, the host mentions relocating thermostats or installing remote sensors as potential solutions for problematic sensor placement.

Environmental and Installation Factors Affecting Thermostat Accuracy

The latter part of the episode covers external influences like direct sunlight, lamps, or nearby electronics that can cause wall or sensor heating, affecting the thermostat’s accuracy. The host advises inspecting the installation environment, including checking for open wiring penetrations, unsealed cavities, or warm surfaces. He recommends sealing leaks with non-flammable insulation or putty, and removing objects like electronic devices that produce heat close to the thermostat. The host discusses how wall conduction, convection airflow, and radiation not only influence sensor readings but can also cause misleading temperature behaviors, especially if the thermostat is poorly located or if there are large temperature swings in the space. He recommends addressing underlying causes like air leaks or insulation issues for long-term resolution, but also suggests practical immediate steps such as repositioning or using remote sensors. The segment concludes by emphasizing that patience and proper measurement are key before replacing thermostats, as inaccurate readings do not always indicate a faulty device.

Final Recommendations and Considerations for Thermostat Troubleshooting

In the closing segment, the host recaps best practices for troubleshooting thermostat readings, including allowing enough time for the system to settle after adjustments or environmental changes. He warns against jumping to conclusions based solely on temperature discrepancies, especially when offsets or built-in algorithms might cause small differences. He advocates for thorough documentation of any configuration changes and stresses that external factors like sunlight or nearby heat sources can easily skew readings. The episode concludes with advice on relocating thermostats, especially when located in poorly situated spots like hallways or near windows, and using remote sensors when necessary. Throughout, the emphasis remains on careful measurement, environmental awareness, and logical troubleshooting rather than quick replacements or guesses.

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Show notes

In this short podcast episode, Bryan talks about why your thermostat is reading the wall, not the actual air temperature.

A thermostat is an instrument designed to read temperature (and sometimes humidity); it displays those readings based on sensors and makes decisions. Most of these sensors are thermistors, which are resistors that change resistance with changes in temperature. Thermistors have low mass and respond to radiant, convective, and conductive heat.

Air coming through the wall (convective heat), the temperature of the things around the thermostat (radiant heat), AND the wall temperature (conductive heat) can influence your thermostat's reading. We may see a service call where the thermostat reads above the air temperature and runs the air conditioning unit even when the air temperature is already below the set point. Our first move as technicians should be to ask customers when they noticed the problem; the timing can give us some clues about what is going on. Looking behind the thermostat is one of the first things we should do, as air can move through the hole where wires come through, especially if there is air leakage elsewhere. If there is a temperature difference and an airflow path, that could be the source of the issue.  

Use a reliable temperature probe near the thermostat, off the wall and away from the thermostat casing and electronics, to get a reliable temperature measurement to compare to the thermostat. If the probe and thermostat disagree after several minutes, we should investigate deeper for a warm wall. Infrared thermometers and thermal imagers can help you identify warm surfaces. Keep in mind that thermostats may have sensors in different locations, offsets, and programmed corrections as well. 

If you find an open wire penetration, use non-flammable insulation and/or an appropriate putty to close it. Be careful not to block the sensing vents, too. Let everything settle and repeat the comparison. Some other solutions include changing the location of the thermostat or remote sensor.

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